I live in Ohio, but own a farm and hunt primarily in WV. WV is heading in the AR direction, I think.

You guys have complained about AR's since they came out...well most of you have. That said, is it the AR's you're pissed off at, or the massive killing of does? Some see no deer, and others see tons, kind of like WV.

If the PGC hadn't allowed the liberal doe seasons, and had put on the AR's do you think it would be better?

I'm not stirring the pot, just looking for your opinions. What is your answer to the problem. THANKS!

AR would work if there were enough deer around to let it work... when they put out all the antlerless tags they opened season on everything, button buck included... most of these hogs will grab as many tags as they can and kill all they can just for bragging rights or because the game commission allows them too... then they sit and b _ t _ h about there not being any deer around to shoot... they don't grow on trees guys... ya gotta have some seed crop... if WV implements AR without going hog wild on the HR they'll be alright...

Since you're saying AR without HR, you'll fare better than us. Be prepared though , to find a lot of dead protected bucks in the woods.

AR is fine total statewide HR is not and is what the MAJORITY of hunters in Pa are against.
That said there are some areas of Pa without much public access that are over run with the brown rats. Thoses areas should have HR . If a hunter there has access to deer then that hunter should get all the tags they can fill......UNTIL that area is reduced in #s

So what's the answer?

One buck TOTAL per season...2 does???

Just wondering what you guys think is right.

On HR, the answer is much smaller WMU's.

Proline, In Pa we are only allowed one buck a year. Been that way, as far as I know, forever.

i think the ar are fine. but the hr has to be scaled back big time. aleast least for a year or two.

simple enough 1 buck be it a BB or a spike or a 30 pointer just 1 buck per year. And sensible doe tag allotments for smaller WMUs.
The bigger Question is who is happy with the PGC's OWDD goals of 12Deer /sm. NOT MOST hunters in Pa an that is evident by all the complaints that forcred Alt out and the PGC to rethink their management stratages. WB

At 1st many guys were cranky they couldn't pop the 1st spike by, and "how we going to count points on a running buck". Some still are, which is the reason there are MANY more illegal kills than most admit or is published. But I don't think there'd be nearly the fuss, if massive HR hadn't occured in many places.