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wingbar 12-29-2004 11:39 AM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
sure was got a full pattern on 8 shot on them with my SKB 20 ga. I should be so lucky to hit a grouse on the wing with a bow&arrow :) WB

livbucks 12-29-2004 01:51 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 

ORIGINAL: Badatta2d

Question.
How far along would a doe that was bred in Oct or early Nov be in her pregnancy? I mean would you find a fetus when gutting if you took a doe now?

Don't laugh I dunno I don't shoot doe.
Actually, they have whats called delayed implantation. The doe holds the fertilized egg for a long period before development begins. Otherwise they would starve real quick in the dead of winter with a growing "parasite" inside them.

I'm sorry, to answer your question....You could never tell that they were even pregnant at this time of year. Probably as big as the tip of your pinky finger.

BTBowhunter 12-29-2004 04:27 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
Dont know much about delayed implantation But a few years ago I shot one on the last day of late muzzy season around mid January and there were two well formed fetuses in her. Both about 3-4 inches long and you could even tell one was a buck

deaddeer 12-29-2004 04:46 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 

Actually, they have whats called delayed implantation. The doe holds the fertilized egg for a long period before development begins. Otherwise they would starve real quick in the dead of winter with a growing "parasite" inside them.
Do you have a link to a study that supports that theory ? Personally I have never heard of that regarding deer.

ulysses 12-29-2004 06:04 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
boy that's one to be proud of hope you thought of those fetus with each fork full

livbucks 12-30-2004 06:52 AM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 

ORIGINAL: deaddeer


Actually, they have whats called delayed implantation. The doe holds the fertilized egg for a long period before development begins. Otherwise they would starve real quick in the dead of winter with a growing "parasite" inside them.
Do you have a link to a study that supports that theory ? Personally I have never heard of that regarding deer.
DD,
I may be off on the exact terminology. But did you ever shoot a doe and get a fetus roast for Sunday supper? Oh, I forgit, you only shoot them buttons.

livbucks 12-30-2004 06:55 AM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

Dont know much about delayed implantation But a few years ago I shot one on the last day of late muzzy season around mid January and there were two well formed fetuses in her. Both about 3-4 inches long and you could even tell one was a buck
Right!
By the end of January they will be developing somewhat, but they are still very small. Like I said, right now they are about as big as the tip of your pinky. And some does are just now being bred.

livbucks 12-30-2004 07:18 AM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
You are correct DD, delayed implantation isn't the right word for it. There is another term used to describe the protracted development of whitetail fawns. Maybe someone else can kick in. I read an article that described how the whitetail gestation is slow in the first stages for survival reasons.
I'll look for it.

ulysses 12-30-2004 02:13 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
about those feetus, last time I looked every button buck had 4

livbucks 12-30-2004 09:40 PM

RE: any late archery luck in pa
 
I dug up some info and am looking for more.

I found that a whitetail fetus grows more than 60% of it's size in the final trimester. This is timed to take winter stress off the doe and to coincide with the spring plant growth.
also... A fetus in a doe that was bred around Nov 15 will be less than 8 inches in length at the end of Feb, 100 days after conception.
Still fairly small heading into March.

I used the term delayed implantation, OOPS, that's black bears. Sorry, wrong term.

I still can't find the exact article. I didn't read it on the web. Probably not published on the web.


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