pa, not many
#12
RE: pa, not many
So are the above stated numbers DPFSM? or DPSM? I know there is a big difference, but from what I read there it is DPSM.
And to clarify my zone is 2D, I still estimated and said 4, as I've never seen .2 of a buck(well unless you count seeing them splattered on the turnpike) It is nothing to ride around my loop and see 40-50 deer with 10-15 bucks, and that's with the corn still standing.
And to clarify my zone is 2D, I still estimated and said 4, as I've never seen .2 of a buck(well unless you count seeing them splattered on the turnpike) It is nothing to ride around my loop and see 40-50 deer with 10-15 bucks, and that's with the corn still standing.
#14
RE: pa, not many
So then why did you add the post telling me about the per forested square mile stuff????? A square mile is a square mile, forest or field. True a city square mile isn't going to have a harvest of a completely forested place. Say accounting for "citified areas" the actually harvest for huntable areas doubles. 30 some minus 8.4 bucks, still leaves a ton of bucks for me to hunt.
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Join Date: May 2004
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RE: pa, not many
ORIGINAL: Lefty26
I love reading these Gary Alt conspiracy theory threads. I think your deer are being abducted by aliens, who are working with Gary Alt on a secret project to create super strain of buck that will be re-introduced to PA. You guys just need to be patient and wait for Gary and the aliens to finish. Antler restrictions are just a diversional tactic so the real truth isnt discovered.
I love reading these Gary Alt conspiracy theory threads. I think your deer are being abducted by aliens, who are working with Gary Alt on a secret project to create super strain of buck that will be re-introduced to PA. You guys just need to be patient and wait for Gary and the aliens to finish. Antler restrictions are just a diversional tactic so the real truth isnt discovered.
that aside, I see most of the replys are of little substance and a lot of rhetoric. Much like Penna's plan to manage deer. Give Dr. Alt a little time? How about we are into six years with Dr. Alt at the helm and our hunting has never been worse.
Seeing very few deer and three years of straight declining buck harvests, and we are looking at a fourth based on scouting so far this summer.
Its easy to be flippant and try to say give it time but we don't really need poor hunting for the next thirty years sport. Sure its not your state, so smart assed remarks are a dime a dozen, but those that get to be part of the lower harvests again this year aren't real pleased.
Things could be worse though........we could be stuck hunting Maryland.....
#16
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hagerstown, MD
Posts: 689
RE: pa, not many
I'm PA born and raised son, been hunting PA for 20 years, always see deer always get deer. Pre-Alt, during Alt, post Alt dont matter to me, I put in the time to find the deer and get er done. My point is, dont make excuses, take the hand your dealt and play it, I never hear any of the "GOOD" PA hunters I know complaining. I wouldnt bust on MD, we have so many deer in this state even a joker like you could bag one or 2.
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RE: pa, not many
ORIGINAL: Lefty26
I love reading these Gary Alt conspiracy theory threads. I think your deer are being abducted by aliens, who are working with Gary Alt on a secret project to create super strain of buck that will be re-introduced to PA. You guys just need to be patient and wait for Gary and the aliens to finish. Antler restrictions are just a diversional tactic so the real truth isnt discovered.
I love reading these Gary Alt conspiracy theory threads. I think your deer are being abducted by aliens, who are working with Gary Alt on a secret project to create super strain of buck that will be re-introduced to PA. You guys just need to be patient and wait for Gary and the aliens to finish. Antler restrictions are just a diversional tactic so the real truth isnt discovered.
ORIGINAL: livbucks
I heard that too! They are developing a carnivorous deer. Has 6 inch fangs and hunts YOU by smell. Oh, and the antlers are blaze orange.
I heard that too! They are developing a carnivorous deer. Has 6 inch fangs and hunts YOU by smell. Oh, and the antlers are blaze orange.
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
I've heard that they are clandestinely importing abbagoochies in from West, by God, Virginia since the coyote stocking program has not had the desired results in decimating the deer herd.
I've heard that they are clandestinely importing abbagoochies in from West, by God, Virginia since the coyote stocking program has not had the desired results in decimating the deer herd.
#20
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hagerstown, MD
Posts: 689
RE: pa, not many
I never hear any of the "GOOD" PA hunters I know complaining.
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Thats not what I meant. You guys may be right there may be less deer, you may not be able to park and walk 50 yds from your truck to see deer in PA now. Good hunters dont complain they get out there, do their scouting and find the deer. There are still deer in the woods you just may have to work a little harder to find them, thats why they call it HUNTING and not shooting......