|
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
One thing I find funny is all the folks saying "why should you tell me what's a trophy, or what I can shoot". Well, the same reason you're told you can only shoot so many a year, at certain times during the year. The same reason you have had to shoot bucks with 3" or greater antlers the past hunting seasons. What's the different about telling you it has to have 3pts per side? They have no answer for this. If everyone did what they want, there'd be no deer left. If someone has a different opinion about how the health of the herd could be improved, I'm all ears, but to whine just to whine, and complain about being "told what I can shoot" holds no water.
BTW, the guy works for BUCKMASTER's magazine, so I guess he's an expert at guided hunts over feeders behind fences, LOL. Actually, the guy had some well thought out ideas, but to assume he has some automatic credibility because he writes for anyone, is hilarious. I should put a title or two before my name, maybe some of these guys would hold what I write up as gospel. Sika Whitetail Management Expert. PHD in Antler Restrictions |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
Well put 6ptsika!
God Bless & Good Hunting LM/NAHC Member NRA Member P&Y CLUB Member QDMA Member Ducks Unlimited |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
6ptsika,
THAT WAS BEAUTIFULLY PUT!!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
BTBowhunter
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> NJB The problem I see with allowing "any buck" in certain areas is the same reason I agree with what's being done. It allows the immature bucks to continue to be the ones to reproduce. The buck doe ratio would stay out of whack unless the doe #'s killed were really high. As for those guys happy with any deer, why isn't a doe or two as good as that spike or forkie? Ive seen guys proud as can be with a spike and thats ok. Whats not ok is that same guy saying "at least I didn't have to settle for a doe" and that is a common mentality in Pa. One that I believe is just beginning to change, thanks, in part, to Gary Alt. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote> BT, to use your philosphy in a real world scenario, the only deer we should be allowed to kill would be immature deer so the mature bucks can be left to breed and maintain a healthy herd. The current proposal protects the genetically inferior, immature deer and puts emphasis on killing the best bucks in the herd. So it actually works opposite of what you have suggested. Just think of the number of people that would take a spike out in bow season and miss that eight-pointer that was 10 minutes behind him on the trail. Under the AR, the spike is spared to breed in November, and the hunter must wait for that more mature buck, or the genetically superior immature buck with an 8-point rack and kill it, preventing him from breeding. 6ptsika <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> BTW, the guy works for BUCKMASTER's magazine, so I guess he's an expert at guided hunts over feeders behind fences, LOL. Actually, the guy had some well thought out ideas, but to assume he has some automatic credibility because he writes for anyone, is hilarious. I should put a title or two before my name, maybe some of these guys would hold what I write up as gospel. Sika Whitetail Management Expert. PHD in Antler Restrictions <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote> 6ptsika: Now now buddy, be careful. Since you have just listed titles that are based only in fantasy, should we logically infer that your conclusions about whitetails are based purely on fantasy as well. <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Sorry, but you walked right into that one dude. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
Don't be sorry, my girlfriend infers the same thing, and she's ALWAYS right!
|
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
LOL, <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> great response 6pt. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
|
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
NJB Come on now! I think you know that by allowing more bucks to reach maturity the young ones wont get to take part in the breeding. The Mature bucks will se to that so long as the buck/doe ration is in balance.
Since yoy didn't reply when I asked if you had ever heard Gary Alt speak I must assume that you haven't. It's obvious that you care about this issue, why not get in your car and get to one of his meetings. By all means, ask him all the tough questions! I know he doesn't have all the answers yet but I do very firmly believe that he has the ability and the motivation to find those answers. 6 pt sika If you think she's right all the time now, just marry her and she'll become SAKU (Source of All Knowledge in the Universe)<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
First of all how many mature bucks are shot in PA each year. Well I will say not that many. Reason is 1) You shot a spike or a fork that walked by first. 2) You didn't see a big deer because they are hiding somewhere out there, they just don't walk right up and say hi to ya. Mature bucks become mature bucks because they are where people are not or where they don't go to. So I just really don't think that there will be that many mature bucks that you say taken out. There probable be more mature bucks taken but not much. When the shooting starts the big ones take off to parts not known by many this is why they stay around.
Now that we passed on these spikes and forkers next year they will be 6 pointers and 8 pointers. I would be proud to take an eight pointer myself. Now this is IMPORTANT they have an extra year of experience behind them as that to ME makes a big difference. SO the following year there will be even more bigger bucks around as there were last year. I feel that experience will teach them to head for the hills when things start happening. Now I am not going to say that a lot will not be taken, as a lot will, but a lot will not and make it for another year. Now think there will be a lot more mature bucks that might push 10 points with a healthy size to them, do to more feeding oppertunities for them and less competition over food with all the does that will be taken out. SO If we give it a couple more years we should be in real good shape. Brian |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
Ok Brian, my turn to say well said! Let em live through one season and they will become survival experts. Once they make the first season many will go way beyond 2 1/2 years.
Once ther is a reasonable number of truly mature bucks around (3 1/2 to 5 1/2) only the best will breed and by the way AR may no longer be necessary at that point. Naw, I guess that'd be dreaming here in Pa! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> |
RE: Antler restrictions: another view
About time I got to say it first <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> thanks
NO AR don't say that as we might just get this heard under control. Brian |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:49 AM. |
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.