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NYBowhunter - why did you attack so fiercely?? We have had "discussions" in the past and I don't remember you "snapping" like that.

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NYB I have two words for you "Reading Comprehension".

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Nuisance permits are supposed to be a targeted response to a specific problem. When used properly they can be very useful and provide a needed relief to farmers. As I have said though, if you know of people abusing the system do the right thing and report them.

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ORIGINAL: alloutdoors

Clint- If you really know someone who is shooting antlered bucks on nuisance permits please do the right thing and turn them in to the authorities. Same thing for the people that are taking several deer on a permit. If someone is misusing permits and they are caught their are consequences. The problem is with the individual in that case, not the system.

Look at it this way, some "hunters" will take more than one deer on a single tag during the normal season. They just keep reusing the same tag, usually by trying to fill it out in pencil or something and then erasing it once they get the deer processed. Obviously this is illeagal, and they aren't hunter's, they are poachers, plain and simple. The same is true if someone tries to do it with the nuisance tags.

And yes hunting deer year round would be a horrible idea. Politicians need to stop trying to dictate managment practices about which they are ill informed.

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ORIGINAL: alloutdoors


First of all they aren't just given out like candy as some of you seem to think. First the property is checked to determine that there is actual deer damage occuring. Then the owner is asked if they allow hunting. If not chances are not so good for them getting approved. Whether or not the land is posted is not an issue, although I can understand why this bothers you. Really though, as long as the landowner is making a serious effort to control the herd on their property during the regular season it doesn't matter who is hunting it, I don't think you can force someone to open their land up to anybody. Anyway, if they are making a serious effort and are still having deer damage then nuisance permits become an option.

Another thing that happens a lot is a farmer will call and ask for nuisance permits, but after some talking you find out that the reason they are calling is because someone who hunts their land told them to call and request them, because the hunter wants to have his own private little season. This is the reason for the on site visits and in this case they are usually told to go to hell, although not in such harsh terms. Part of the problem is people seeing the nuisance permits as "extended hunting". DEC tries to stress that there is a difference, nuisance tags are not for hunting, they are to solve a problem. BTW, when nuisance permits are given the landowner is supposed to list who their "shooters" are, so if you know of someone who is just handing them out to all his buddies you might want to give a call to your DEC office and have them look into it. Anyhow, the way it is supposed to work is the permits are given, a couple of shooters are assigned, and after a couple of nights of shooting they take care of the problem.

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