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hatchet jack 09-03-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Nicky (Post 4157494)
Gotta agree with Jack, many of the hunting laws in PA are strange and hard to decipher, I've never seen a rule book for any other state that is as large as ours. Try making sense out of the "fluorescent orange" rules, or laws on shooting dogs that are chasing deer. Try asking a CO what the rules are on hunting un-posted land, or what the rule is on quartering your deer in the field (as opposed to dragging it back to your truck). For us who've lived here a while, they're probably second nature.

I am really down with you on the quartering of your Deer in the woods to get it out. Where I rifle hunt in Pike County I hunt a spot that takes 90 min to get to, and I gotta drag/deer cart a Buck out from the Land that time forgot. Not a spring chicken no more but I still hump it back there because it my most special place to hunt. I would love to 1/4 a deer up and pack it out on my back. The DCO that I work/hunt with down in Bucks co say's you can 1/4 a deer up and pack it out. On the other hand I had 2 WCO's up in the Big Wood's of Pike say you CAN'T 1/4 a Deer in the woods,must drag/cart it. Who do I believe when the WCO hands me the fine IF? I do 1/4 a deer up? Which I don't! because you can't get the same answer from 3 different DCO/WCO's ??? Is this Black and White or is it a light shade of Grey? Make's sense to me. Its a win/win. You get your Deer out the Best way, and whats left in the woods is a feast for the Lucky critter's that dine over your remains. Either way a straight answer would be nice from the PGC. NOT!!! Have a nice Day. Be Safe!

Hatchet Jack

Bob H in NH 09-04-2014 06:34 AM

I can see the cut up in the woods argument, it's such a foreign concept in most of the east, but out west the attitude is why would you do anything except quarter it where it falls?

I know it's illegal in NH as we have to bring the entire deer (field dressed ok) to a check station, but PA doesn't do that, nobody looks at your deer, so why not?

When you can't get a consistent answer from WCO, then I'd say you found a grey area, but honestly many of the things brought up in this thread are black/white, just illogical.

Oldtimr 09-04-2014 07:06 AM

I would say it is not a grey area. The law states when a deer is killed the head must remain attached in a natural manner to the carcass. The law also provides that if the head is not attached, the hunter must upon demand take the officer to where the head and proof of sex will be found. So, if you want to quarter your deer, leave the head and neck attached to one quarter or be prepared to take a walk. One thing about PA hunters, if they are not complaining they are not happy and will look for something to complain about.

dougl 09-04-2014 08:36 AM

You can quarter a deer or bear.You just have to have the head and proof of sex.Just because a WCO or deputy tells you something,doesn't make it so.

Uncle Nicky 09-04-2014 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by dougl (Post 4157784)
You can quarter a deer or bear.You just have to have the head and proof of sex.Just because a WCO or deputy tells you something,doesn't make it so.

Not going to argue this point any longer, but doesn't the fact that the WCOs aren't aware of all of the rules just back up the fact that there are just too many rules that aren't presented to us in an easy-to-understand fashion? And with that in mind, Oldtimr is a retired game warden...so should we dismissing his logic as bunk as well?:confused0024:

dougl 09-04-2014 10:36 AM

There's lot's of stupid laws and ordinances on the books that make no sense.Pa doesn't have a patent on that.

hatchet jack 09-04-2014 05:18 PM

I had my DCO Buddy today look into the 1/4 of a Deer today. He called WCO John Pappas of Bucks co who then called the Reading PGC headquarters. He was told you CAN 1/4 a Deer in the woods to get it out. Its must be tagged correctly and the head taken with you along with your meat. The Game Warden can be taken back to the site if he thinks there is foul play. Then he can take DNA to see if its the same Deer.Here's another one to ponder that I don't understand. Why can't you use Bloodhound Tracking Dog's to find your Deer?

Hatchet Jack

hatchet jack 09-04-2014 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Nicky (Post 4157787)
Not going to argue this point any longer, but doesn't the fact that the WCOs aren't aware of all of the rules just back up the fact that there are just too many rules that aren't presented to us in an easy-to-understand fashion? And with that in mind, Oldtimr is a retired game warden...so should we dismissing his logic as bunk as well?:confused0024:

:hail: Really? That clears things up a little.

Hatchet Jack

hatchet jack 09-04-2014 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by dougl (Post 4157784)
You can quarter a deer or bear.You just have to have the head and proof of sex.Just because a WCO or deputy tells you something,doesn't make it so.

That's for sure, and you are correct on the 1/4 of a Deer.

Hatchet Jack

hatchet jack 09-04-2014 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Oldtimr (Post 4157769)
I would say it is not a grey area. The law states when a deer is killed the head must remain attached in a natural manner to the carcass. The law also provides that if the head is not attached, the hunter must upon demand take the officer to where the head and proof of sex will be found. So, if you want to quarter your deer, leave the head and neck attached to one quarter or be prepared to take a walk. One thing about PA hunters, if they are not complaining they are not happy and will look for something to complain about.

What page in the Pa Hunting and Trapping Digest does it state this law? I am not complainingBUT. It would of been nice to know that when I was told by 2 WCO's up in Pike County that you can't , and you can 1/4 a Deer???? My Bad ! I guess I made a a mistake thinking the Warden should know the Law, and I don't see it in the Digest. Maybe I missed it. I will read the Digest again. If its in there I stand corrected.

Hatchet Jack


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