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just a couple of ideas;) why cant i get my rifle permit over the counter like doe permits? its a pain sending this in to Trenton every 2 years! surely the people in the office have better things to do! they should also combine the hunting courses to include rifle and shotgun together! also why do they start the muzzleloader season for most of the state the monday after thanksgiving? most people i know are off the friday and saturday after the holiday. many people i know hunt pennsy on that monday so i wouild think they mite sell some more permits in jersey by changing muzzleloader opening day to the friday after thanksgiving!. another big issue i have is with the extended bow season. if you think about it your paying twice to bow hunt in the same season. are we suckers? do you buy a fishing liscense in april then when may hits we have to buy another one? and so on! why cant i bowhunt on sundays? many people work 6 days a week so why cant we bow hunt . theres no noise involved like a gun so why not? [:@][:@] NOTHING BUT PERMITS AND MORE PERMITS[:@]

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All very legitmate questions. I wish I had good answers for them, but I don' t. The way NJ hunters continue to overpay for our sport is mind boggling, but we just keep bending over and over again.

One of the most outrageous things the division did to us is shorten Fall Bow and lengthening Permit bow thereby forcing NJ hunters to buy additional deer permits if we wish to hunt during the rut.

Another good one... Turkey season
Lets do the math if you want to hunt for a full month
week a 21.00
week b 21.00
week c 2100
week d 21.00
To hunt friggin Saturdays!! 21.00
Resident Firearm Liscense 27.50
Grand Total .................$132.50

Now lets compare that to NY
Non-Resident Hunting 55.00
Non-Resident Turkey Permit 30.00
Grand Total......................$85.00
and that' s for a full month of turkey hunting including Sundays!!!!

So how is it that as a NJ resident I can hunt more cheaply as a non-resident in NY than I can right here at home.
Why do we continue to get so raped with fees in this state, I would really love to know.

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All the above reasons are why I don' t hunt here even though I live here. (Temporaryly)

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Write your Representatives at the Reichstag up in Trenton and ask them your questions... :D

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The reason you can' t hunt on Sundays in NJ is because of the " Blue Laws" ....i.e. THE CHURCH!!!!!

Total Bull****!

I just bought my NJ bow liscence for the 1st time, and I can' t believe all the different permits, and interwoven seasons etc......very confusing. Glad I still hunt NY too.

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Just some of the reasons I had to give up on NJ. :(
I buy nonresident licenses in MD and DE and it costs me less than a resident NJ license and all the permits I would need. Plus bigger deer. The sooner I get out of this state the better.

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Combine the out of this world license costs with all of the stupid seasons and way too long permit seasons equate to a miserable hunting experience for the average person. You can bascially hunt from 9/6 straight thru to Jan 31st!!!!!! What' s up with that??? Oh, you can shoot a doe a day while you are at it or a button buck a day if you are really lucky....

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Broadhead get an up to date digest. You can now hunt From 9/6/03 thru 2/14/04. :)Don' t cut out those last 2 weeks, as for the way too long permit seasons if you don' t like it you don' t have to hunt them. Myself I can never get enough hunting. I hunt public land and enjoy every day I can hunt. Even if some so called sportsman shoots the deer I had shot and was following up for a coup de grace. Or the guy still hunting past my stand not realizing I was there watching 2 bucks feed towards me waiting for the shot. Or the guy that trods in to his stand 1/2 hour after sun up. Its public land and they have just as much right to be there. There are more deer out there now than ever so the Div. must be doing something right. I for one have no complaints other than to like to see more Pheasants and Quail released.

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i also love our turkey season[X(] i dont hunt it anymore its just too easy to cross over and hunt pennsy for the whole month of may without having to worry about dates and area restrictions! they really need to simplify things. jersey hunter- i have all but given up on bird hunting in our state. its easier to go to a game farm and hunt private land and have a real quality hunt without worrying about the sea of orange spraying you with lead[>:] on the public lands. i pay 50$ for a chance at 6 birds with dogs included.

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Actually jerseyhunter you are absolutely wrong. There are not more deer out there than ever in NJ. The deer numbers have been declining drastically over the last few years thanks to the long and liberal seasons, this has been confirmed by division officials. The numbers will continue to decline so long as we have these insanely long seasons, but that is what the goal of the division is...to reduce the herd drastically, period, and they don' t keep that a secret.

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I then take it back about more deer than ever . Maybe what I should have said is that I' m seeing more deer now than ever. I doubt the longer season has any bearing on it because tjhe deer have always been and probably always will be scarce in the neck of woods I hunt in Jan. & Feb. once again sorry for the mis interpretation of what I printed and what I meant.

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I think that if you ask most Jersey hunters, they would agree that the overall quality of the hunt has decreased over the last 10 years due to a combination of development and increased regulations. I think that the the extended Permit season is the single greatest factor besides development that has hurt the quality of deer hunting in my Zone. We have people shooting does/buttons/shed bucks all thru Jan in ZOne 2. Guess what, the following year there are less deer and of course less quality bucks around.

Before I keep going, I just wish the state would review the never ending permit season and try to model our season around succesful shotgun states such as ILL.

Enough said. Let' s get hunting this Fall!!!

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I' ve come to the conclusion that the state really doesn' t give a hoot. I haven' t even received as much as a reply to comments and suggestions regarding game management that I have sent in to the division.

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Hello folks. LIQUIDORANGE Where do you hunt that offers 6 birds with Dogs for 50 dollars? I am interested. I agree that the state rips us off when it comes to Pheasant and Quail. STEALTHY_BOWMAN.... I also agree that the state doesn' t give a hoot about anything but money. Money is the bottom line. If we Sportsmen didn' t supply the huge amount of money that the State makes from us I beleive that the Political a$$ wipes in trenton would end all hunting in our State.............

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try g&r game farm in jackson n.j. . the last time i was there they offered different packages and limit the amount of hunters at a time. for the money the chuckars provided fast action but you can order up what you like. pheasants or quail also. its a mixture of woods and fields and they have there own dogs. they hunt i believe from september till march. i figure if im gonna pay to hunt birds the state wont get my money. i can go with family and friends with no others hunting nearby. it costs a little more but worth it to me.

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yup, us new jersians get bent over when it comes to those stupid permits. i am 17 and have to save all year to buy those permits, liscenses, and we wont even get into turkey season. i hate nj

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They do. You can now get your bow, shotgun and muzzloader class in one day.

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what i meant was one single class not two seperate. in the past for instance while hunting you could shoot a slug which is a single projectile and not need to take a seperate rifle course. muzzleloader is a single projectile (except for shotgun types for small game) i didnt need the state to show me how to operate it. if you hunt rifle in maine, pennsylvania, or new york and buy a hunting liscense they only ask for your hunting liscense and no extra rifle certification because its covered in there courses all in one so i cant understand why other than CHARGING~! for an extra rifle permit they would still seperate the shotgun from the rifle. [X(] you can tell the state feels guilty about this because they designed the rifle permit so we only have to purchase it every 2 years. thats supposed to make us feel better[:o] so lets stay united jersey hunters and keep PAYING AND PAYING AND PAYING.