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I was told by a fairly reliable source that as of Jan. 1, 2002 CrossPile no longer had hunting rights on the property you and I talk about. My brother in-law hunts a private farm on Ely-Harmony, which also butts up to the CrossPile piece. He told me the Ozarks were driving CrossPiles areas on Saturday. Now I'm begining to wonder if CrossPile loosing the property is a good thing or not. MWX

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I had done a stupid thing, I began to winter bow hunt without shooting a few arrows before I got in a tree. Well I had two shots, both around 18-20yds. gave both deer a hair cut on their belly line. After it happened twice I began to wonder if it was really me. I shot at the 3-D in the yard, sure enough grouped 3 arrows at the very bottom. The problem was my launchers were worn to the point where it made a difference. I made an adjustment, and killed the next fat mama I had a chance at. I'll probably hunt again Wed. and Thurs. if it isn't 70 degrees. MWX

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Hey guys--hope all is well! I never got a chance to go out this Jan due to family/etc but the weather certainly cooperated. My Dad also stayted home so he never got his deer in NJ.

Any news on the seasons for 2002 besides the "buck" tags? These "buck" tags seem to be status quo if I am not mistaken. See ya.

Bob

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NJBowman, sounds like you have a nice spot if you have at least 8 bucks to carry over. I have only seen a total of 11 deer since Nov. 15th, and I've hunted quite a bit. They really knocked the crap out of them with those long doe seasons and unlimited tags over the last few years. The deer densities here are as low, if not lower than they were in the mid 1970's. I sure hope you are right about them cutting back on the anterlerless season. I know they need to in the Salem and Gloucester County area's.

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Our club in ZOne 2 has some great cover and we don't drive. It's about 250 acres surrounded by heavily hunted areas so we get a lot of deer hiding out during gun season. However, we have some people in our club that will shoot as many deer as legally possible w/o regard for sex/quality/etc. These are guys that are in their mid-late 50's and have been hunting for years. The younger guys in the club (early 30's) have been pushing for QDM and reduced buck/button take but we consistently get vetoed! What a slap in the face as we can see the future but these guys are just too "old school" or stupid to figure it out. That's why we were hoping that the Stae would mandate QDM and reduce buck tags so we are forced to comply.
See ya and can't wait till turkey!

Bob

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NJBowman, I practice the same hunting philosphy as you've described. However, the people hunting the properties adjacent to mine kill whatever moves. Seasons are too long, and bag limits too liberal. That's one reason why I was opposed to Sunday hunting, it would be like adding another 3 full weeks to the season; three, heavily hunted full weeks. I don't know what drives Fish and Wildlife in NJ to make the decisions they do regarding deer hunting, but I don't think they have huntings best interest in mind. That is evident from the current policies.

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I am not surprized to hear that Ozark is slamming the deer they slammed Colliers Mills this year pretty bad and I am not talking about deer either FLOUR.ORANGE/RED Paint also some blue paint. The last weekend of bow they painted every tree in site not little dots I mean the side of trees and every 20 feet down cuts they put thru the woods you could drive a truck down. I walked in my stand and was sickened to see orange paint everywear trees cut over and just a mess from my stand I could see no more than 20 orange paint marks some 2 feet long from my stand. We ran into the guys and atleast one was wearing an Ozarks hat. Just a complete lack of respect for nature and other hunters who use the State WMAs. I am just POed

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I can't believe the state police couldn't do anything. I think they didn't feel like doing anyting would be more like it. I know they could've done something because we were having a problem with tresspassers, not hunting but riding motorcycles. We told them numerous times, some parents even came to us and argued with us. Told us to tell the owner to sell his property if he doesn't like them riding, how do you like that? Anyhow one Sat. in November we brought my cousin with us to make a guest appearance, street clothes, his state police i.d. and his gun. We caught a few, their bikes were towed, and they had to appear in court. word traveled fast, a few run through the property on occasion but for the most part its been quiet. If you know who the tresspassers are you can still ask fish and game to write em up!

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