When trying to make a point... you discredit yourself by not spell checking, or using proper punctuation. I'm not going to waste my time on this banter. In the end everything boils down to one simple thing. If you don't like something either; do something about it or shut up and stop complaining. Moving forward, since I do not have an issue with the anterlered deer management program I will shut up. As for you sir, I hear Ohio is a great place to hunt.

That is the typical response from someone that can't support their opinions with facts and is looking for a way to gracefully bow out of the discussion.

blue,RESPECTFULLY,you are not correct.
i ate lunch at meeting with state rep from my area with DR.ALT.before this our local sportsmans president was crying,DR.ALT WE HAVE TO ALLOW KIDS TO KILL ANY BUCK,PLEASE DR.ALT, PLEASE.
if alt only knew that this so called sportsman FOUND a way to fill his freezer.he did not care anything for kids, it was a WAY to get meat.

BLUE,up to that time, listen, up to that time there WAS NOT GOING TO BE A AR EXEMPTION FOR KIDS.it was going to be 3 points for ALL.
that is fact, it came out of his mouth in front of 500 hunters at lock haven university.i was there and asked what i thought of it by state rep.
I DID NOT LIKE IT BECAUSE I SAW WAY FOR HUNTERS TO OUTLAW AND USE KIDS AS A WAY TO DO IT.

now what i say is happening. 5 yr old girls in pink with sneakers on shooting 13 point bucks with WEE- 0-8 AND NO TAG NECESSARY.

so when dr.alt spoke possibly the AR exemption for babies was not in affect.
i can tell you this,AR IS WORKING BUT WILL NOT GET TOO 100% UNLESS ALL OUTLAWING AND STUPID BABY SHOOTING A 13 POINT STOPS.

Apparently you forgot that Alt continued to make his predictions about the effects of ARs long after junior hunters were exempted from the effects of ARs. His claim about more and larger bucks appeared in the Hunting Digest until 2008.

Furthermore, even if some parents are using their kids tag to harvest non-AR legal buck, the PGC is still claiming that ARs are protecting 50% of the 1.5 yr. buck, which is what Alt predicted. You may or may not have a problem in your area,it definitely is not a statewide problem and it is not the reason why ARs failed to double the number of 8 pts.

Looking for new areas to hunt in central PA
 

Figured I would post something other than the back and forth bickering about the AR and Dr. Alt. I am always looking for new places to hunt around the central PA region, does anyone know of a good area. I prefer places I can put up game cameras place a food plot and observe the area. I have been noticing that there are quality deer here in PA have been seeing large deer in areas you can not hunt due to the laws of beeing so far from a structure. I will try to post a picture of a non-typical 8 point that eats from my side yard in a development..

start a new topic. we are busy EXPOSING truth about deer hunting in pa.:eek2:

You might want to check your rule book again. PA is far less strict on distance from a structure you may hunt than in MD. To my knowledge you can hunt 40 yards from an occupied structure. That is for archery only, I don't hunt deer with a gun anymore, but I think that's only like 100 yards. I wouldn't plan on putting up a camera....

Start a new thread...

You might want to check your rule book again. The safety for archery is 50 yds. and for rifle hunters it is 150 yds. and that is from occupied buildings, farm buildings and commercial buildings.

Wow, 17% is significant.

Yes a 17% increase is a significant failure when ARs were predicted to increase the number of 8 pts. by 100%. Furthermore, it is an indication that we may be high grading our buck just like in MIss.