DeerandbearhoG

well I prefer the 12ga but hey nothing wrong with a little creativity.

Sure about that? who cares anyway? the sky isnt what kicks your door in during a home invasion. why does the sky have to be falling for you to be prepared for an emergency? my 12ga wont harm anyone unless they enter my home uninvited , better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

The hell you say!

BarnesX.308

DearandBearHog - botttom line is: liberals are a little touched in the head.

DeerandbearhoG

Once again , "the hell you say"

barnes, Im thinking the atmosphere at "empire liberal hunting forum" would be lost on you aswell my friend

Bernie P.

How does driving around with a gun in your vehicle when bow season is open automatically mean you were hunting illegally?By that logic if I'm driving around with a gun or bow in the vehicle when the seasons are closed I'm automatically guilty of poaching.

DeerandbearhoG

Didnt say it made sense. Does it make sense that you can own a hi-cap magazine, as long as its at least 26 years old, and the gun doesnt have a bayonet????

Its one of those stupid NY weapons resrtiction laws, that they leave open to interpretation, so they can **** w/ you.

burmjohn

I was PM'd by a member on the http://HuntingNY.com site today telling me a little about what had happened to the empire site. They said that what lead to the demise was all the arguing and bickering about AR and other things. From what I have observed, those arguments have kept themselves pretty much contained to those threads that are relevant. I didn't get to observe the final month of empire, but once I realized it was gone I fired up the http://HuntingNY.com site to get back in touch with the guys I loved to BS with. None the less, it is lightly moderated, as SteveB said, the only thing I've done is remove a few curses here and there to keep it somewhat family friendly and moved a post here and there to the relevant Forum area. The Arguing is great, that's how opinions, facts, idea's, and whatever else get across so people can make a decision / form their own opinion. Every single person has been great on the site, and I hope it grows to be a great place for all NY Hunters. Have fun.

Steve863

That was sort of a lame excuse for shutting down the old forum. I think it was more like the old administrators not liking the fact that people took them to task on things like AR's. Lots of good reasons against them were given and they didn't like hearing them. They wanted everyone to march lock step FOR AR's in NYS! Anyway, I really like the new site. Keep up the good work with it!!

W.Ztirem

I think the main reason the site folded (without notice) was that it was not profitable enough to justify the amount of time it took to maintain the site. If one looks at the site activity prior to its demise you will realize that "site hits " were way down. Perhaps the sponsors pulled their support. In any event we would all like to hear from Rob as to why he elected to close the site.

jimbodwb

After reading through this thread it is exhilarating to know that we as fellow hunters can have views ranging from the extreme right to the far left. I myself fall somewhere in between. Deerandbearhog, I have to agree with you when you say taking guns out of the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS hands would not lower the amount of guns that a criminal gets his hands on. But Steve863 never said he was in favor of taking the guns out of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS hands. He simply stated that if all gun sales were required to be reported (even the private sales) than the amount of guns LEGALLY available to criminals would diminish. Criminals will still find a way to be criminals, that's what they do, but there is no reason we as LAW ABIDING CITIZENS should make it easier for them. Who cares if you have to wait a few extra minutes to get your gun.

Also, your interpretation on the law stating that you cannot be in possession of a firearm while bowhunting is very incorrect. If you were questioned by a law enforcement officer about that than I would suggest finding him and telling him to get some help with his interpretation. The law states that you cannot be in posession of a firearm while bowhunting. You are not bowhunting while you are in a vehicle. You are driving and there is no law on the books that states you cannot transport firearms and archery equipment at the same time. I do agree with the law though. I see no reason to carry a firearm while bowhunting.

I never was on the old Empire site but I am on the http://HuntingNY.com site. It is a great site and I am glad I found it. I spend more time there than here. I gave up on this site a while back when it became a "who is gonna trash the Penn DNR next and every other discussion was about AR's and lack of deer in Penn". I am glad I found a NY only site.

DeerandbearhoG

Nore NY liberal nonsense , is there no end? Do you actaully think NY gun restrictions and "common sense gun control" stops at NICS checks in this state??? have you ever tried to own a handgun in this state? Ever tried to buy a an AR15? Hi cap mags? what about mandatory trigger locks? these restriction are ridiculous! My whole point is stop resticting the guns and start resticting the criminals , doesnt that make more sense?

As far as my interpretation of the law, if youre so sure im "very incorrect" why dont you drive through a deer check point with a shotgun and your bow in your vehicle during archery season, better yet do it while transporting a dead deer, and see what the nice DEC officer interpretation is?