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Old 02-10-2010 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebird2
That's why the PGC reduced the herd statewide. If they didn't, DCNR wouldn't have been able to get their forests certified.
You show me proof that this is all about oak regeneration.More than half of the state doesn't even have oak.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 08:01 AM
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I will, right after you list the reports where DCNR expressed serious concerns about the lack of regeneration of cherry, birch, beech and red maple.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 08:08 AM
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lol. Good point bb. lol

Also its pretty well known that secondary goals exist. Such as extreme unnecessary, unnatural levels of biodiversity.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Yeah,lol they're really concerned about invasive species that they don't want.You guys are too much.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 10:55 AM
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None of the trees I listed are invasive species. They are all native to PA and have existed in our forests as long as the oaks.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebird2
None of the trees I listed are invasive species. They are all native to PA and have existed in our forests as long as the oaks.
Sorry,they have little value to wildlife and practically no commercial value,except the black cherry.In any event,anyone that wants to manage a piece of property for wildlife or timber would want to reduce those species.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:16 AM
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You bring up a good point though.Cherry is more valuable than oak and the deer generally don't touch it unless they have no other choice.Why would they want to regenerate oak over cherry?If they did,they wouldn't have to worry about an overabundance of deer.

Are you telling me that they're trying to kill all the deer statewide so that they can regenerate oak in large sections of Pa that are northern hardwoods?
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:29 AM
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Sorry,they have little value to wildlife and practically no commercial value,except the black cherry.
Grouse eat black birch buds and deer love red maple and can survive quite nicely in a forest of red maple ,beech and striped maple at 40 DPSM. lots of birds and animals eat the black cherries and birds ,squirrels and chippies eat the red maple seeds.

Why would they want to regenerate oak over cherry?
No one said they did. If an area is all oaks ,ash and maple it is hard to regenerate a stand of cherry with no seed stock.
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebird2
That's why the PGC reduced the herd statewide. If they didn't, DCNR wouldn't have been able to get their forests certified.
You were talking about oak with with quote,correct?So what is it?Is it all about oak or isn't it?
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Old 02-10-2010 | 11:46 AM
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It's all about oak where oak are the dominant tree species in the existing canopy. In the rest of the state it is about SCS certification of DCNR forests.
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