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I helped a couple people( with legit disabilities) set up their crossbow. They "are" much easier to start consistently hitting a bullseye than compound or recurve. Talked to the owners of the two archery shops I visit. When I asked them about crossbow sales,I got a surprising answer. That surprise was how many guys trading in their compound for a crossbow.The reason-they do not have to go through the motion of drawing the bow in close quarters of the animal. They fill with the aid of a rail on their stands and not having to draw a bow,that success will come much easier for them.I believe it will.Then you add the number of new hunters buying a archery stamp. I can't see how anybody can make the claim that crossbow's aren't going to have a impact on the buck harvest. Believe me,I don't care what you use to kill your deer and this is not me versus you,as to with more hunters in archery season competing for the deer. It's strictly about the harvest numbers that I believe, that are going to happen and what it is going to do to archery season down the road.You can bet,the gun hunters who do not want to participate in archery season. Are the next group who are going to cry wolf about "ALL" bowhunters. And if they don't get changes in the archery season,then what? More hunters quitting? What the he!! did the PGC gain then?
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You know what it passed and I'm going to use one and your not. Same as every other state that passed this law. I still have to find the deer I will shoot and God willing kill it. Be safe in the woods!
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I think anything that brings more/new hunters among the ranks is a step forward. P.s never divide!always unite!
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Originally Posted by blkpowder
(Post 3440526)
I can't see how anybody can make the claim that crossbow's aren't going to have a impact on the buck harvest. Believe me,I don't care what you use to kill your deer and this is not me versus you,as to with more hunters in archery season competing for the deer. It's strictly about the harvest numbers that I believe, that are going to happen and what it is going to do to archery season down the road.You can bet,the gun hunters who do not want to participate in archery season. Are the next group who are going to cry wolf about "ALL" bowhunters. And if they don't get changes in the archery season,then what? More hunters quitting? What the he!! did the PGC gain then?
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Originally Posted by ManySpurs
(Post 3440588)
Crossbows are for people that are disabled and people that are to lazy to learn how to hunt with a real bow.
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My father hunted with a compound for many, many years. He has taken a fair amount of deer with one.
About 10 years ago, he had shoulder problems and got a xbow and permit. He has taken many deer with it also. He states that the xbow is more awkward to carry in the woods and he was limited to only hunting on the ground with it. Because of his shoulder, he couldn't use a tree stand and couldn't draw the xbow from a tree stand anyway. Even though he was limited to hunting from the ground, he managed to get more deer with the xbow. He said that all he needed to do was to determine how far the deer was and shoot. He did not practice. He only sighted it in and rechecked the sights every once in a while. With the xbow, he could take farther shots than he would with the compound. With the compound, he would not shoot at a deer over 25yds. With the xbow, he killed deer a 35 and 40yds. without a problem. I actually witnessed a kill at 33yds. because I ranged it on the rangefinder for him as it approached our decoy Overall, he was more successful with a xbow than a coumpound because of a few factors 1. No need to draw while deer were within range and get busted 2. With a good rest, and properly ranged, deer were not missed. 3. He could shoot farther distances with more confidence. My father quit hunting a few years ago. In all his years hunting with a compound bow, he racked up more kills with a xbow, in a few short years, than he did with the compound in decades. He was even limited to hunting from the ground with the xbow. He has had years of experience hunting with both weapons and he will tell you the xbow made it very easy. |
So now your saying it is easier to get a deer during archery season than it is gun season? Archery hunters are not talented to hunt bucks with a gun cause it's much harder than during the rut? Sounds like that is what you are saying there. Your saying a no talented gun hunter can come in the rut season sit up by a scrape and shoot the buck much easier than rifle season? While you were proclaiming to be lazy, you should have thrown in illiterate and ignorant as well.:bash::s6: |
maybe the whole season is due for change as it sits now? Maybe if you want more deer you kill less? Maybe instead of brown down club you burn that doe license and let em' walk away. One and done no matter the weapon. If your so gonna blame everyone but a compound user let's just have one full year of bow only. See if you guys can carry the weight of the state on your shoulders??? Again I will be hunting w/ my Xbow it is not the reason you have lost deer herd in the last 10 years w/ the hunting ranks failing, the deer densities falling. Blame that on an exisiting season or entity other than Xbow, look in the mirror.
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Originally Posted by ManySpurs
(Post 3440661)
That's not what he's saying. He's saying the crossbow will lead to a higher buck kill during the archery season, which will in turn lead the firearms hunters to complain that there are to few bucks left for them. Get it? Or shall I dig out the Crayolas and construction paper and draw you a friggin picture?
While you were proclaiming to be lazy, you should have thrown in illiterate and ignorant as well.:bash::s6: There is no talent needed to hunt during the deer season when the rut is on. Sit on a scrape and wait for the deer to show up. How lazy is that? You think the Xbows brought out a bunch of new hunters? I doubt it,it is the same hunters just with a different weapon. Now here it is again to what has said. More bucks will be shot during archery seasons because they are easier to kill than rifle season and there will be a decline in the bucks so the hunters will complain. Are they not complaining now about lack of deer? And how will this make it any different? Now, all those who are all for the HR in PA all of a suddenly against it because it has jumped in with your reg archery season and you all cry now about the deer herd being declined. Hypocrits. I deserve along with anyone else who buys a hunting license to be able to hunt during the rut as those with a reg bow. I paid my dues for that priveledge and I for one am very happy with this new Xbow intrusion during the rut. And by the increase in archery sales I have to say alot more people also. Lazy is sitting in a tree stand over looking a scrape waiting for a deer instead of still hunting during regular firearm season. :biggrin: |
Originally Posted by junky_car
(Post 3440594)
So now your saying it is easier to get a deer during archery season than it is gun season? Archery hunters are not talented to hunt bucks with a gun cause it's much harder than during the rut? Sounds like that is what you are saying there. Your saying a no talented gun hunter can come in the rut season sit up by a scrape and shoot the buck much easier than rifle season? Your argument makes no sence at all. How is the numbers of bucks being harvested by new Xbows hunters going to change the yearly over all buck harvest? Unless your saying any idiot can kill a buck during archery season during the rut, then I will agree with you. You going to see alot of gun hunters enjoying the warmer weather easier kill bucks with the Xbows this season for sure. I will be one on them gun hunters with an Xbow in my hands.
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