Part of an interesting article. Good luck fighting this econut invasion fellas, we lost here in Pa.

"It is clear that the only way to give our forests a chance to recover from both overbrowsing by deer and alien plant invasions is a two-step approach: 1. a drastic reduction in the deer herd, to a level so low as to achieve the functional equivalent of an exclosure (winter deer populations must be about 5 per square mile for a drastically damaged forest to begin to recover), and 2. the collection of local native seeds by local master gardeners or other volunteers, with associated gardening programs to re-introduce the native shrub layer where it cannot return on its own.
No field research needs to be done before initiating drastic deer herd reduction.
Collecting data sets filled with zeroes regarding plant regeneration is a waste of time and money. The deer population in the New York region needs to be driven down, way down toward 5 deer per square mile in order for our forests to begin a slow recovery. Research and deer censuses, fine-tuning for an optimal deer density under a forest recovery-based deer management program, can begin when the deer herd is approaching reasonable levels. Until native plants are regenerating in abundance, there is absolutely no reason to undertake the expensive task of counting deer.
Deer reduction can only occur with drastic changes to deer management, such as:
1. tax credits or other monetary incentives for every female deer (doe) harvested by an individual.
2. doe harvest requirements for landowners who receive a preferential, lowered property tax assessment for engaging in forestry programs that protect natural resources. Without aggressive management to reduce doe abundance, forestry programs have little chance of success in regenerating trees and other forest components. Deer fences may be substituted for hunting programs, where surrounding lands are not accessible to hunters.
3. economic incentives for municipalities and counties to initiate doe control programs.
4. legalizing the sale of local venison for food and hides for small manufacturing enterprises.
5. free butchering of deer for venison donations to homeless shelters.
6. other changes and innovations that represent thinking “out of the box.”
We are now stuck in the box of century-old fish and wildlife laws. These laws and rules were created when there were no deer, and the population had to be re-established with deer from the Midwest and the South, and then nurtured. Now, with suburban landscapes providing ample food during winter and cool-season agriculture providing abundant food by early March, no deer is ever stressed by winter, and all females bear at least twins by May.
This uncontrolled population explosion of deer has led to the conversion of our forests to a collection of alien weeds and vines in the understory, in which there is absolutely no reproduction of native woody trees and shrubs or herbaceous wildflowers. Our native forests and associated biodiversity will melt away, as can already be seen in many places, if we continue to ignore these threats.
Biodiversity is not the only natural resource at stake. Overbrowsed forests with only annual and biennial alien invasive weeds on the forest floor do not absorb rainfall as well as a healthy forest, resulting in more storm runoff, erosion, and siltation of water courses. Forests that have lost their layer of shade-tolerant shrubs and regenerating trees cannot store as much carbon as a forest that is filled with vegetation at all levels.
All nonprofit environmental groups, government agencies, sportsman clubs, farmers, professional foresters and community groups need to work together to reduce the regional deer population to a biodiversity-based carrying capacity, which must initially be significantly lower than 10 deer per square mile, but could be boosted to about 20 per square mile when the forest is once again filled with tree seedlings and saplings, a dense shrub layer, and a forest floor carpeted with wildflowers! But until we observe native vegetation rebounding and shading the forest floor from low heights of only 3-20 feet, we don’t need to waste limited resources by counting deer. Deer densities are so high right now that knowing their actual number is irrelevant to solving the problem.
If we do not pursue such a course of ecological forest restoration, future generations will consider our inaction to be an example of gross negligence in the management of natural resources.
Dr. Emile DeVito, a conservation ecologist, is Manager of Science and Stewardship for the New Jersey Conservation Foundation.

Well, any increase in the doe kill in NYS will NOT be happening this year. The doe permit probability list is already out and it looks like it is about the same as last year. In fact many units have been giving out way less permits in the last few years.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/30409.html

These things take time steve.

Here in Pa it took many years of lobbying and envirnomentalists obtaining the necessary seats in legislative and wildlife management positions to make it happen. Previously when those type idiots got into the agency and started pushing the econut agenda, they were promptly and rightly shown the door and given the boot.

It may never happen there. Id have never believed it would happen here. When I initially heard rumors years ago, I didnt believe a word of it. Shrugged it off as complete nonsense. But if it can happen in Pa with what was one of the strongest hunting "traditions" in the nation and well over a million hunters.... It could happen absolutely anywhere.

coming to a town near you!

Cornellius, where did you find this article?

Here is the link.

http://topics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...tion/#comments

Boy, following that link and doing a little bit of internet surfing, I came across a bunch of articles with pretty much the same tone.

Here is a little bit of biograpy that I was able to find on Emile DeVito. This nut sounds like another Audubohn type.

Emile DeVito, PhD.: Dr. DeVito is Manager of Science and Stewardship and Director of Conservation Biology with the NJ Conservation Foundation. He has two decades of ecosystem restoration and managing lands for wildlife biodiversity. His background includes research in the NJ Pinelands, studying landscape patterns of the distribution and abundance of bird species at different scales. Dr. DeVito currently serves as a trustee for the Pinelands Preservation Alliance and the NJ Natural Lands Trust, and has served on the NJ Commission on Environmental Education and the Smithsonian Migratory Bird Council. Dr. DeVito has served on the Committee in one of the three non-profit organization seats since 2000 and became Vice Chair of the Committee in 2009.

Here is a link where you can find other similiar articles posted. The one that Cornelius posted is also found there. Way too much information to sort thru very quickly.

One thing is certain. Hunters are not friends to these people and we do not share the same goals. To them, we are only a necessary evil. They find it to be revolting that we are out there killing animals but they are delighted to have us thin the deer herd and that is all that they desire from us.

http://deeralliance.com/index.php

I was always under the impression, after reading NY'er Charlie Alsheimer for decades that much of NY state was subject to extremely hard winters, esp over the northern adirondack region...and the severity of the winters themselves lend toward relatively low dd, the same scenario exists through much of new england.

For the most part, this is true in the northern reaches of the "dacks, Maine, NH and Vt. In fact, Much of the High Peaks region, on into the upper reaches of Franklin Co. don't even issue Doe permits, and haven't for years. Could this change, sure. Personally, I hope it doesn't, unless the #'s dictate it, and not some pencil pushers sitting behind a desk.

I believe NYS has managed the herd well, handle the implement issue well, and listens to it's sportsman. As the link that everyone has supplied indicates, the topic was deer damage/herd reduction in Metropolitan NY, which has all the issues of Metropolitan Pa, NJ, etc. { pic a state }. Continued encroachment into game habitat produces predictable results, no different than building in a flood plain. That's yet another example why the High Peaks region in the 'dacks appeals so to me. Metropolitanizing will NEVER happen within the Blue Line, at least not in my lifetime