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Read what it says at the bottom of page 5:

We have simply summarized the more important and frequently misunderstood hunting and trapping regulations.

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There is no mis understanding of what was said and printed when Xbows was included in all of archery season back when it was voted in. Plain and simple,there was no ifs or buts,no mis understanding of what was said and voted in back then and what the flier has printed is correct and not a mis understanding.It is a re neg on someones part that won't hold up. How is it a mis understanding denny? It has now been annouced twice that it is legal during all year use. 2 to 1 denny. 2 yes to 1 no.

Also the first mention on the front cover of the flier is, Get this. Crossbows Permitted in the Archery Seasons, p.43

Doesn't matter what it said when the Digest was printed. Any and all subsequent changes in any regs, will supercede it.

Apparently you didn't bother to read the disclaimer at the bottom of page 5, that's been part of every Digest since I can remember?

Take all the votes you wish to, none of them will change the reality of what is what. Fuss-on.

Yes I just read it denny and there is nothing that again may I say is a mis understanding. It is not confussing at all to read. The only thing that I don't understand is the bobcat tag during reg deer seasons. It don't make sense and might be a typo. But as for Xbows,it is not mis print or mis understanding. There is nothing illegal or could be illegal about useing a Xbow during the whole season. Again that is a re neg if it passes. And I have heard nothing about it outside of this forum. I could find no mention of it at all anywhere. Again how are we to know if it is changed? By getting a citation and then going in front of a judge and saying how was I to know this was illegal? Then maybe we should all start calling the PGC and asking them about every single detail in the flier. Yea,that is not going to work now is it. I bet some PGC don't even know about this change comming up if it is for that matter.

Seems like Denny is being thick headed again.

If the rules in the digest may or may not be correct, then the digest is junk. How are we supposed to know which of the rules have been modified and are incorrect? Are we all supposed to call the PGC and have them give us a compete dissertation of the current rules?

Yes, our freinds at the PGC should be embarassed that they are not capable of getting the rules established on time and are not capable of printing an accurate digest. Seems like two fairly simple tasks.

You two figure it out on your own, it's probably the closest either of you will come to reality.

I believe the people who want Xbows wont have a problem useing them all year long.

Also Thursday — and it's no coincidence it occurred the same day the board of game commissioners met — the state House Game & Fisheries Committee voted to send House Bill 965 to the floor for a vote by the full delegation.

HB 965 seeks to change the state's definition of a bow to include crossbows. Right now, the two are different under the law.

If HB 965 is approved by the House and Senate and is signed by Gov. Ed Rendell prior to the start of the archery deer season, then the board of game commissioners' wranglings are entirely moot, because a crossbow will be the same as a compound, longbow and recurve, and it can be used in a season in which those other bows are allowed.

Although it makes me sick to my stomach I have to agree with "The Maverick" or mav 1 or what ever.

It's one thing for there to misprint in the digest but it's another thing for the board to INTENTIONALLY create a situation where the digest is wrong and their own press releases are bogus by reversing such a major reg three days into a season if they vote away four weeks of x-bow hunting statewide during the Oct 5-6 meeting.

Changing a reg like this DURING an on going season is on par with flying a 747 with a jet fighter behind it over NY City. Yep, those you pulled that stunt were legally allowed to do so but do you really want people like this making decisions?


Wv Gino - bow hunter since 1982, bow hunter who does not own a crossbow, bow hunter has never even shot a x-bow, bow hunter who
gets out with a bow about 5 times a week begining of Oct. thru the week of Thanksgiving in two different states.

I agree. There is no logical reason to reverse the vote that was made at the previous meeting. The PGC has been constantly changing the regs since the plan was implemented which makes analyzing the harvest data and population estimates extremely difficult.

If the hunting digest can't be taken at face value, then what purpose does the digest serve?


If things have to be double checked and are not to be considereded fact, why have it?

I understand about printing deadlines and all, but something needs to change.

Why not run a hunting season from January to January like WV?


If you show a majistrate the digest and what it says, I feel that many times the hunter may walk away without a fine.

Laws that affect every facet of our lives get changed all the time. The major difference here is that a digest gets printed every year for the hunters convenience.

Did we all get a digest when they passed a law making it illegal to drive in the left lane when not passing? Did we all get a digest when PA decided to change the DUI threshold to .08 from .10?

Our township passed a curfew for teenagers. guess what? We found out when my kid walked to the 24 hr c-store after 11PM. Maybe I shoulda bitched when he got a warning that my township didnt publish a digest.

The point is that laws change all the time. It is and always has been the responsibility of the citizen to know the law. The digest is a guide only. Anyone who is interested enough to buy a crossbow will undoubtedly get the word. If not, he may find a sympathetic magistrate and maybe he won't. Personally, I have very little sympathy for someone who has his head in the sand so deep that he'd have no clue by October.

The old BOC was irresponsible in rushing the xbow thing against overwhelming public comment and the new BOC is trying to right a wrong and in the process, created a no win situation.