Sure - got anything to offer about the herd, habitats or biological need for AR in NYS?

What parts of NY do you hunt in and are family with the dynamics of?

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If you get booted Cornelius, I will stop posting here.

Please note that my post about the B/D ratio was about the biological need for ARs and my post on antler size was about the biological effect of ARs. Also note that most of those that responded to my post were NY residents. As yet I haven't seen any indication that any of our NY members have actually read the report and if that is true I know as much if not more than those that haven't read the report

Thats funny!
I had trouble all day yesterday and couldn't get in. Back of my mind thought ole Corny might have something to do with it.

Mav - still willing to hear what you know about NY that would help us.

Keep demonstrating what you know for "fact".
Of course backing it up would be nice - like your claim of knowing me from a board I don't frequent.
Really does wonders for your credibility.

AR is a complicated issue that cant be summarized easily but Here are a few thoughts meant to be constructive.

AR as a widespread law will never be perfect

Of the 3 components of antler quality, nutrition, genetics and age, age has been shown to have the most effect. Broad AR is most likely to be beneficial where hunting pressure is killing off too many young bucks. The benefits of AR will be less apparent in areas where pressure is lighter and bucks have a chance to grow older.

The size of first year antlers are not a good indicator of a bucks genetic potential and does have equal genetic input into antler quality

Spread restrictions have been shown to be generally better than point counts in the long run.

Rumors of AR causing "high grading" by taking the best young bucks have been shown to have no basis by respected wildlife professionals.

I Don't know spit about your state but I tried to post some things that should be universally valuable for any hunter who is trying to decide whether AR is a good or bad thing in their area.

Whoops! Gotta go! Got a conspiracy meeting so we can get to work keeping Corny from signing on again today

Steve,

You already have tried to silence everyone else that you don't agree with. I don't have the inclination, the time nor the patience to discuss things with you.

No - I have asked that a thread about NY not become another PA whizzing contest.

Input for discussion from anyone familiar with the needs of the different areas of NY.
I have offered my impressions on several of the different areas.

Again - What can you offer for discussion about the herd, habitats or biological need for AR in NYS?

What parts of NY do you hunt in and are family with the dynamics of?

That is a direct invite to participate - hardly an attempt to silence anyone.
Heck - I don't even know your position since you have not offered any.
If you don't wish to participate, fine - but to blame me for not doing so is weak at best.

Back to the conspiracy.

Steve

The exact opposite is true and even Dr. Kroll's research showed that ARs would , on average,produce 2,5 bucks with smaller racks ,which may catch up to other bucks at 4.5 yrs.

Well, looks like I may have been mistaken on the "booting". Dang thing wouldnt let ME log on at all yesterday after several attempts throughout the day, but would allow others to which I could see were online. I was also able to log on with a new sign on name cornelius08~ ...but not my regular id. Sorry for the accusing Steve-o, but it was the only thing that made sense.

Anyway, enjoy but dont expect to hear this again in the near future, for once....I WAS WRONG. Though with good reason. lol.