RE: PA DEER AUDIT UPDATE.....
 

There ie no doubt that the PGC and WMI are joined at the hip, so unless the audit is highly critical of the deer management plan the validity of the audit will be in question.

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The problem is, those that matter, the legislators will after all this messing around, give it weight anyway just to be done with the whole deal. I predict this thing is gonna kick the hunters of our state right smack in the teeth, with no significant changes, mostly praise, a meaningless token suggestion or two, and pgc gets a fee increase and hunters voice is COMPLETELY blocked out, the econut agenda shifts into higher gear completelyunabashed and unchallengable.

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I think this outfit was deemed the only ones capable of a job of this size.

Not that I think any of this is a great idea but when your studying rockets one must look to rocket scientist.:eek:

Whom would any of you suggest, maybe PETA, local Baptist ministry or look in the yellow pages for deer busters?[:-]

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Jim, that friggin rocket scientist doesnt have to have several connections to pgc, byron f'locking shissler the audubon nut and dcnr consultant who workedwith pgc as well as wmi! OUr new (conincidentally) game commissioner worked with wmi,wmi worked with pgc multiple times on projects, and selling literature from Gary Alt and Byron Shissler!!

Jesus H Christ man! I shouldnt have to explain the ramifications of all this to an open minded concerned fellow hunter!! You know damn well that we DO NOT trust pgc and thats why this thing is being done....and thats why they shouldnt have connections...especially STRONG connections to the friggin auditor!!! And we sure the hell dont trust audubon idiots.

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"Whom would any of you suggest, maybe PETA, local Baptist ministry or look in the yellow pages for deer busters?"

Ya know what? If we dig enough into this fine "wmi" company, god only knows who the hell we may pull up.[:'(]

NO AUDIT is better than a biased sham one design to screw the hunter. These problems could easily be fixed without this friggin circus.

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"I think this outfit was deemed the only ones capable of a job of this size."

No....Others were supposedly eliminated for a combination of reasons... Some supposed had "connections" to Pa! LMAO!! imagine that??
One was eliminated due to not using a "professional panel". And I believe the price was also a consideration as wmi was cheaper than some of the others... This decision was left up to the legislative finance committee and that idiotLevdansky was instrumental.

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I will say one more time, I feel educating your neighbor's would pay you far more dividends than bucking this system, the deck has been shuffled but I don;t think hunters are going to get a chance to cut the deck!

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"I feel educating your neighbor's would pay you far more dividends than bucking this system"

Im not sure what you mean by that?? But as far as I am concerned I am educating my neighbors and as for the powers that be, Id like to take this system and shove it straight up their arse.

Im not gonna conform to that which I disagree strongly. I see nothing to gain by bending over on command. Even if we lose in the end, I aint goin down without a scrap, and I see no reason to apologize to anyone for sticking up for what one believes in.;)

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The south fought the civil war with the same mentality,and I'm sure your results will be quite similar.:eek:

While charging the cannons might seem a Noble gesture, an orderly,well planned and intellectually carried outassault will surly bring more satisfying results with far fewer casualties.[:-]

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Nice parellell to the civil war and the south...But the north won because they werent cowards either.

Jim, if it werent for pacifists like you we wouldnt even need to fight. Unity among 900,000 plus would speak for itself.

Since that isnt gonna happen, I'll take my chances with the canons. but dont worry Jim. You might not have to just sit back and accept whatever scraps the audubon society decides to throw you. The rest of us will do the "heavy lifting" which youmay endupbenefitting from.:eek:

I see no "casualties" on this side other the the ones quitting hunting thanks to the extreme plan. Nothing will be solved without pointing out the clearly bs. issues as they arise and have them out in the open....AND VOICE OUR 100% NONACCEPTANCE AND OUTRAGE!...Though, not necessarily uncontrolled anger when it matters, in conversation with legislators etc... But this is a message board and a place where venting is perfectly acceptable imho.

I believe the odds are decent of success. I believe with doing nothingthe odds zero percent.

And while we are on the battle terminology, this audit is like us being drawn into a dead end box canyon with the archersatop the canyon walls.