I think he'll live with your vulgar childish name calling, but you are still a liar.At best, currently you are trying to force us to believe something that is undocumented, unproven, and unlikely.

RSB didnt dispute the statewide numbers. He simply explained that they may not be a true and fair comparison due to a shift in the sampling locations. I mentioned it in this thread the same way explaining it as "the rest of the story" Why are you so afraid of the WHOLE story? Whats wrong with having ALL the facts? Unless of course, it doesn't fit your agenda.

And I'll say to you Cornhole, monkeyboy, tantrum boy, your constant and repeated use of the word liar simply because you disagree with someone is every bit as vulgar and childish

ORIGINAL: Screamin Steel

RSB< Somehow I always knew your blind support was all about getting a payraise. I'm really sorry to hear that, and I know it must suck to go that long without a raise, but until they fix their problems they (the agency as a whole)just don't deserve one, whether the hard working WCO's and others are overdue or not. My advice, use your law enforcenemt background and apply to the State Police or a Sherriff's department. The PGC is a sinking ship, my friend.

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

RSB did in fact dispute the statewide decline in breeding rates by claiming the decrease was due to shift in sample size and location, even after I pointed out it was statistically impossible and that the southern tier counties still had much higher sample sizes than the northern tier counties. Since RSB continues to misrepresent the cause of the decrease in breeding rates after he has been shown the facts, he is lying and not just mistaken.
Were you being childish and vulgar when you constantly called me a liar ,even though you couldn't back it up?

To see the shift in sample representation you have compare the past, for each area, with the present for the same areas. I have presented that data in the past and don’t have the time, or the interest, to dig up those facts of change yet again.

In fact, it simply doesn’t matter if the statewide breeding rates declined or not since we don’t manage deer anywhere in the statewide based on that statewide data. All units are managed based on the data for that specific unit. That unit specific data is pretty favorable and proving that the current management objectives are working toward the intended, unit specific, goals and objectives all across the state.

ORIGINAL: R.S.B.


You do realize that just running an agency required by law and Legislative mandate to fulfill a management mission still costs money don’t you? Do you think salaries don’t need to be paid when times get tough. Do you think the automobile manufactures just give the agency new vehicles to replace the worn out ones every year at the 1999 prices? Do you think the garages that work on those vehicles do so at 1999 costs and provide the parts at the 1999 price listings? Do you think when we pull up to the gas pump everyday or two and fill the gas tank they are only charging the 1999 gas price?

Do you think the Food and Cover crews are buying seed, lime, fertilizer and fuel for planting and maintaining habitat at the 1999 cost?

You aren’t of those people that has no idea that the Game Commission doesn’t get money from the tax dollars and has to work off of a self funding system are you?

And as for timber cutting, there is no more timber being cut now then was being cut in 1999 when the timber values were MUCH higher then they are now. In fact today they can’t even get companies to bid on much of the timber they would like to cut even though cutting it would be a benefit to wildlife.

R.S. Bodenhorn

That is just pure nonsense and shows you don't understand what you are talking about. To see the effects of a shift in sample size you have to compare the change in sample sizes in areas with high breeding rates with the change in sample size in the areas with low breeding rates ,which is what I did and it proved that breeding rates did not decrease due to a shift in sample size and location. ,which you failed to comprehend. So maybe you weren't lying and just didn't understand that very simple explanation.