DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
04-03-2009, 05:45 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
I guess you couldn’t even create a poll without biasing the results.
If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
As you poll is being done it has absolutely ZERO credibility of an unbiased result. But, then I am sure that is exactly the reason you biased it to start with. And, what to call others a liar, while you set up a poll that is intentionally going to produce the desired biased outcome? Doesn’t that make your biased result nothing more then a LIE and you the LIAR evertime you use the poll results?
You should leave polls to people that can set them up with a fair slate of questions.
R.S. Bodenhorn
04-03-2009, 06:07 PM
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
"If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
Wrong again rsb. That would fall under option 3 above. If you dont agree ALWAYS with pgc, yet support them getting a fee increase even if it means NO changes or even if it means our situation WORSENING.... Then you pick option 3. ITs that simple.
If this question were included in our license as part of the transaction with a poll of 900,000 hunters+, Id bet 800,000 of them would say no.
Wrong again rsb. That would fall under option 3 above. If you dont agree ALWAYS with pgc, yet support them getting a fee increase even if it means NO changes or even if it means our situation WORSENING.... Then you pick option 3. ITs that simple.
If this question were included in our license as part of the transaction with a poll of 900,000 hunters+, Id bet 800,000 of them would say no.
04-03-2009, 06:15 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
ORIGINAL: R.S.B.
I guess you couldn’t even create a poll without biasing the results.
If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
As you poll is being done it has absolutely ZERO credibility of an unbiased result. But, then I am sure that is exactly the reason you biased it to start with. And, what to call others a liar, while you set up a poll that is intentionally going to produce the desired biased outcome? Doesn’t that make your biased result nothing more then a LIE and you the LIAR evertime you use the poll results?
You should leave polls to people that can set them up with a fair slate of questions.
R.S. Bodenhorn
I guess you couldn’t even create a poll without biasing the results.
If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
As you poll is being done it has absolutely ZERO credibility of an unbiased result. But, then I am sure that is exactly the reason you biased it to start with. And, what to call others a liar, while you set up a poll that is intentionally going to produce the desired biased outcome? Doesn’t that make your biased result nothing more then a LIE and you the LIAR evertime you use the poll results?
You should leave polls to people that can set them up with a fair slate of questions.
R.S. Bodenhorn
Why don't you post your own poll with your own wording and we will see how different the results are?
04-03-2009, 06:22 PM
#5
Giant Nontypical
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08
"If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
Wrong again rsb. That would fall under option 3 above. If you dont agree ALWAYS with pgc, yet support them getting a fee increase even if it means NO changes or even if it means our situation WORSENING.... Then you pick option 3. ITs that simple.
If this question were included in our license as part of the transaction with a poll of 900,000 hunters+, Id bet 800,000 of them would say no.
"If you had wanted to have an unbiased and far result you would have included another question that read something along the lines of, “I don’t always agree with the Game Commission but understand and support the need for a license increase.”
Wrong again rsb. That would fall under option 3 above. If you dont agree ALWAYS with pgc, yet support them getting a fee increase even if it means NO changes or even if it means our situation WORSENING.... Then you pick option 3. ITs that simple.
If this question were included in our license as part of the transaction with a poll of 900,000 hunters+, Id bet 800,000 of them would say no.
04-03-2009, 06:30 PM
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
That can easily be checked by administrator if you cry loud enough.
I dont have a clue who Pedro is, but I have one ID. But I wouldnt put it past you pgc supporters, since in the real world there probably wouldnt even be the 4 votes FOR it that are there currently. Course I hafta remember a more liberal amount of pgc employees and dcnr fellas roam these boards too and make upa MUCH higher percentage of the vote, than it would be if the total hunter ranks were polled. So i think it safe to say, whatever the outcome, in reality we could probably add 20-30% no vote to the results if we wanted to, to keep it realistic.
This isnt a pFSC poll that has no "no" answer. Sorry.
I dont have a clue who Pedro is, but I have one ID. But I wouldnt put it past you pgc supporters, since in the real world there probably wouldnt even be the 4 votes FOR it that are there currently. Course I hafta remember a more liberal amount of pgc employees and dcnr fellas roam these boards too and make upa MUCH higher percentage of the vote, than it would be if the total hunter ranks were polled. So i think it safe to say, whatever the outcome, in reality we could probably add 20-30% no vote to the results if we wanted to, to keep it realistic. This isnt a pFSC poll that has no "no" answer. Sorry.
04-03-2009, 06:49 PM
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
If I were, I wouldnt have worded it fairly as i did.
You either SUPPORT the license fee increase PERIOD.
Or you DO NOT SUPPORT the license fee increase PERIOD.
ORYou dontSUPPORTunless conditions are met.
Thats the reality of it. Either PGC doesnt change things. Or they do. Question covers both possibilities.
You either SUPPORT the license fee increase PERIOD.
Or you DO NOT SUPPORT the license fee increase PERIOD.
ORYou dontSUPPORTunless conditions are met.
Thats the reality of it. Either PGC doesnt change things. Or they do. Question covers both possibilities.
04-03-2009, 07:41 PM
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
Id say that poll says a lot. You,ve got 3 choices it,s really down to the 3 choices. And for WC0 Bodenhorn your question of I dont always agree with the GC. is far off in left field. Remember were supposed to be doing an audit of the deer mismanagement in this Commonwealth and your agency turned around and said they really DOUBT if they could cooperate with said audit. The hunters of this state deserve this audit to finally bring everything to life and you folks say that. Who do you folk,s think you are CIA, or what.
04-04-2009, 12:11 AM
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Typical Buck
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RE: DO YOU THINK PGC SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE MONEY?
The PGC needs to be wiped clean. All fired and all politics taken out of the system. Real lifetime hunters representing the state from different areas making decisions.WE need people that actually spend time ( hundreds of hours in the woods ).Its a real joke Rendell the liberal anti- gun globalist politician gets to appoint the PGC leaders.When the PGC starts taking statistics from the United
Nations commies ,thats the last straw.
Nations commies ,thats the last straw.