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Old 03-23-2009 | 09:05 AM
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The tried cutting the stumps high (two to three feet above ground) on the game lands up here and it didn’t work, the deer still eat the stump spouts all off every year until the stump died.

Then they tried to cut part way through the tree and bend the saplings over, like a hinge, thinking they could grow a horizontal forest, but that didn’t work either. The deer just ate everything off that was within their reach until the tree either sent up a shout that turned into a new trunk, out of their reach, or the whole tree died.

Then they tried bulldozing the trees over so the root ball was still attached to the tree, as they still tried to grow a horizontal forest. That didn’t work either for the same reasons the cut and bend method didn’t work.

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Maybe the deer are really grazers and not browsers as many might think? Maybe they just browse till they find their favorite candy then turn into grazers till it's gone?
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Old 03-23-2009 | 09:18 AM
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The tried cutting the stumps high (two to three feet above ground) on the game lands up here and it didn’t work, the deer still eat the stump spouts all off every year until the stump died.

Then they tried to cut part way through the tree and bend the saplings over, like a hinge, thinking they could grow a horizontal forest, but that didn’t work either. The deer just ate everything off that was within their reach until the tree either sent up a shout that turned into a new trunk, out of their reach, or the whole tree died.

Then they tried bulldozing the trees over so the root ball was still attached to the tree, as they still tried to grow a horizontal forest. That didn’t work either for the same reasons the cut and bend method didn’t work.

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Maybe the deer are really grazers and not browsers as many might think? Maybe they just browse till they find their favorite candy then turn into grazers till it's gone?
LOL and maybe if you put your tooth under your pillow tonight you'll find a nice shiny quarter there in the morning.
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Old 03-23-2009 | 10:15 AM
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As if you know the first thing aboutanything other than smooching pgc arse and lying.
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Old 03-23-2009 | 01:38 PM
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Wrong again sport!

It's been tried, documented, and tried again. Didn't have an effect.

Beside the fact that you have very little clue as to forestry practices, who do you expect will give up all those board feet? How are you going to tell the private owners of the 80% of this state where to cut on their tree?
I should have waited until April Fools Day to start this thread , but after a hard week of working in the woods I needed a laugh and I knew Livbucks , RSB and BTB wouldn't let me down. As always I did a little research before I posted and found the reason why increasing the height of the stumps doesn't improve stump sprouting.
Stump sprouts originate from dormant buds at or near the base of stumps of harvested overstory trees.
Therefore, increasing stump height would not increase the height of the stump sprouts as one might expect..

Then we have this from the same report.
For example, data from a study of black oak and white oak sprouting that included trees ranging from less than 1 in. to more than 12 in. in basal diameter showed that the most rapid height growth occurred in clumps originating from 6-in. stumps (Johnson 1979). Sprouts from stumps larger or smaller than that grew less. The height growth of oak reproduction thus changes continuously, but not unidirectionally, from small advance reproduction to large-diameter overstory trees (see figure). (Johnson, 1993)
And finally we have this quote..
The large amount of unexplained variation in the relation between shoot growth and stump diameter also reflects rapidly changing root-shoot relations. Other factors that may be significant sources of variation in the shoot growth of oak sprouts include site quality, genetic variation, competition, parent tree age, and season of cutting. The significance of these factors may vary among oak species and regions (Johnson, 1993).


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