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WCO R.W.J 03-15-2009 07:17 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

Alt was appointed to manage the deer herd and he had absolutely no back ground in deer management. The clown didn't even recognize a browse line in the woods where he did his bear research. Maybe that makes him qualified to do the audit based on your warped criteria.
Seems his education would qualify him,


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bawanajim 03-15-2009 07:20 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J


ORIGINAL: bluebird2

Alt was appointed to manage the deer herd and he had absolutely no back ground in deer management. The clown didn't even recognize a browse line in the woods where he did his bear research. Maybe that makes him qualified to do the audit based on your warped criteria.
Seems his education would qualify him,


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M.S. in Wildlife Management, Pennsylvania State University
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Calling Dr Gary Alt a "clown" kinda puts it all in perspective doesn't it.:eek:

bluebird2 03-15-2009 07:51 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

Seems his education would qualify him,


One might think it would, but to be qualified one has to apply that knowledge to real life situations. But, Alt didn't know what our B/D ratio was before ARs or simply lied about it and he obviously didn't know the reason for late born fawns and the extended breeding window.

BTBowhunter 03-15-2009 08:01 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

Calling Dr Gary Alt a "clown" kinda puts it all in perspective doesn't it.:eek:


Sure does Jim. Of course lets not forget that Alt isn't the only wildlife profesional that doesn't measure up to [&:]birds Standards.

There's also Dr Kroll who [&:] tell us "doesn't understand his own research".

[&:]bird also claims that Charlie Alsheimer mismanages his property.

Of course, he's blasted Rosenberry too.

No wonder the [&:]bird and his lemmings are willing to jump on streets bandwagon and put a wildlife photographer (who by all information available hasn't worked in wildlife management in PA for 30 years) to the fore front as the one to audit the deer program.

Sounding more and more like desperation time for the naysayers isn't it?


As for all the "suspect" closed door secret meetings, I have obtained a snapshot ofsome of those who attended the meetings where Streets suggestion was discussed.......











bluebird2 03-15-2009 08:32 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

Of course, he's blasted Rosenberry too.
Wrong again. I actually feel sorry for Dr. R. since he got stuck with the mess Alt created. As a result he is in a no win situation and can't even release the data on ARs or the breeding rates and DDs in each WMU. He is stuck with the job of damage control and it limits his ability to do the right thing.

BTBowhunter 03-15-2009 08:54 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2


Of course, he's blasted Rosenberry too.
Wrong again. I actually feel sorry for Dr. R. since he got stuck with the mess Alt created. As a result he is in a no win situation and can't even release the data on ARs or the breeding rates and DDs in each WMU. He is stuck with the job of damage control and it limits his ability to do the right thing.
OK we could argue semantics all day about what exact words ou said about Rosenberry and waht they were intended to mean. The plain and simple facts is the you have repeatedly attempted to discredit his work.

What is undisputable is that you have repeatedly dismissed many respected wildlife professionals and their work for one reason or another and have produced nothing in the way of evidence as to your qualifications to dispute the work of so many people who do this for a living.

On the other hand, an opinionated, biased, fairly obscure columnist suggests a photographer as the man to do the deer audit and you climb on board that bandwagon immediately

blkpowder 03-15-2009 09:15 AM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter


ORIGINAL: bluebird2


Of course, he's blasted Rosenberry too.
Wrong again. I actually feel sorry for Dr. R. since he got stuck with the mess Alt created. As a result he is in a no win situation and can't even release the data on ARs or the breeding rates and DDs in each WMU. He is stuck with the job of damage control and it limits his ability to do the right thing.
OK we could argue semantics all day about what exact words ou said about Rosenberry and waht they were intended to mean. The plain and simple facts is the you have repeatedly attempted to discredit his work.

What is undisputable is that you have repeatedly dismissed many respected wildlife professionals and their work for one reason or another and have produced nothing in the way of evidence as to your qualifications to dispute the work of so many people who do this for a living.

On the other hand, an opinionated, biased, fairly obscure columnist suggests a photographer as the man to do the deer audit and you climb on board that bandwagon immediately



bluebird2 03-15-2009 12:09 PM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

The plain and simple facts is the you have repeatedly attempted to discredit his work.
That is a flat out lie. You can't provide one example where I discredited the work of Dr. R. I have said he couldn't answer my questions and has failed to provide the data on ARs, but he definitely gives more honest answers than Alt and is even willing to admit when he doesn't have an answer.

What is undisputable is that you have repeatedly dismissed many respected wildlife professionals and their work for one reason or another and have produced nothing in the way of evidence as to your qualifications to dispute the work of so many people who do this for a living.
No , I did not dismiss their work, I just questioned the conclusions they reached. I don't need any qualifications to question their work when I can provide research from other experts that prove I am right.


BTBowhunter 03-15-2009 01:29 PM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

ORIGINAL: blkpowder


ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter


ORIGINAL: bluebird2


Of course, he's blasted Rosenberry too.
Wrong again. I actually feel sorry for Dr. R. since he got stuck with the mess Alt created. As a result he is in a no win situation and can't even release the data on ARs or the breeding rates and DDs in each WMU. He is stuck with the job of damage control and it limits his ability to do the right thing.
OK we could argue semantics all day about what exact words ou said about Rosenberry and waht they were intended to mean. The plain and simple facts is the you have repeatedly attempted to discredit his work.

What is undisputable is that you have repeatedly dismissed many respected wildlife professionals and their work for one reason or another and have produced nothing in the way of evidence as to your qualifications to dispute the work of so many people who do this for a living.

On the other hand, an opinionated, biased, fairly obscure columnist suggests a photographer as the man to do the deer audit and you climb on board that bandwagon immediately



LMFAO !!!
blkpowder you are one funny guy!

Now I gotta explain to the wife why I busted out laughing so loud that I startled her darn near outta her seat.

blkpowder 03-15-2009 02:00 PM

RE: Interesting article on Pa Deer Audit
 

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LMFAO !!!
blkpowder you are one funny guy!

Now I gotta explain to the wife why I busted out laughing so loud that I startled her darn near outta her seat.
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