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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
ORIGINAL: R.S.B. No one has ever known how many deer there were in any state at any given time in history and if they did it would be changed within about five minutes anyway. It isn’t even important to know how many deer you have when the deer and their food supply are telling you if there are the right amount, too many deer or if the food supply and habitat could possibly support more deer. It is nearly as important to know how many there are is it to know when you need to harvest more, fewer or maintain a stable harvest. The deer give you those answers when you monitor them. It makes much more sense to listen to what the deer and habitat have to say then to listen to what hunters have to say. They listen to the hunters so long we have many areas today with very low deer numbers. Listening to the deer works much better because deer don’t have anything but real facts to present while hunters present lots of opinions with almost no supporting facts. Wise people will put more faith in listening to the deer and their food supply then the hunters. R.S. Bodenhorn [/quote] Interesting. Now how do you go about to determine deer capacity per WMUs? You just said you listen to the deer but yet do you all really do? Do you observe every deer at every SQM and habitat? Get real now on the procedures your trying to sell the people. Lets look at the worse habitat in 2G and dictate that for all of 2G. Great work there buddy. What a moron. |
RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
It would appear that we have the USP's public relations officer on board here now, exhibiting the level of intelligence and class that the organization is known for.
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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter It would appear that we have the USP's public relations officer on board here now, exhibiting the level of intelligence and class that the organization is known for.
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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
You're welcome blkpowder!
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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
ORIGINAL: scorp ORIGINAL: R.S.B. No one has ever known how many deer there were in any state at any given time in history and if they did it would be changed within about five minutes anyway. It isn’t even important to know how many deer you have when the deer and their food supply are telling you if there are the right amount, too many deer or if the food supply and habitat could possibly support more deer. It is nearly as important to know how many there are is it to know when you need to harvest more, fewer or maintain a stable harvest. The deer give you those answers when you monitor them. It makes much more sense to listen to what the deer and habitat have to say then to listen to what hunters have to say. They listen to the hunters so long we have many areas today with very low deer numbers. Listening to the deer works much better because deer don’t have anything but real facts to present while hunters present lots of opinions with almost no supporting facts. Wise people will put more faith in listening to the deer and their food supply then the hunters. R.S. Bodenhorn Interesting. Now how do you go about to determine deer capacity per WMUs? You just said you listen to the deer but yet do you all really do? Do you observe every deer at every SQM and habitat? Get real now on the procedures your trying to sell the people. Lets look at the worse habitat in 2G and dictate that for all of 2G. Great work there buddy. What a moron. If you go back to the previous page and read those links, I already provided your questions will be answered, at least they will be provided you could read beyond the comprehension level of a moron. Ah, buddy? R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
Once again you are dead wrong and you have proven you have no idea why 2F is being managed at almost twice the density as 2G ,when 2G has better regeneration than 2F.
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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
ORIGINAL: R.S.B. ORIGINAL: scorp ORIGINAL: R.S.B. No one has ever known how many deer there were in any state at any given time in history and if they did it would be changed within about five minutes anyway. It isn’t even important to know how many deer you have when the deer and their food supply are telling you if there are the right amount, too many deer or if the food supply and habitat could possibly support more deer. It is nearly as important to know how many there are is it to know when you need to harvest more, fewer or maintain a stable harvest. The deer give you those answers when you monitor them. It makes much more sense to listen to what the deer and habitat have to say then to listen to what hunters have to say. They listen to the hunters so long we have many areas today with very low deer numbers. Listening to the deer works much better because deer don’t have anything but real facts to present while hunters present lots of opinions with almost no supporting facts. Wise people will put more faith in listening to the deer and their food supply then the hunters. R.S. Bodenhorn Interesting. Now how do you go about to determine deer capacity per WMUs? You just said you listen to the deer but yet do you all really do? Do you observe every deer at every SQM and habitat? Get real now on the procedures your trying to sell the people. Lets look at the worse habitat in 2G and dictate that for all of 2G. Great work there buddy. What a moron. If you go back to the previous page and read those links, I already provided your questions will be answered, at least they will be provided you could read beyond the comprehension level of a moron. Ah, buddy? R.S. Bodenhorn [/quote] Maybe you should read this and check the facts again. Anyone else see the lies in this? DEER HEALTH, FOREST HABITAT HEALTH, DEER HARVESTS, AND DEER POPULATION TRENDS BY WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT UNIT (Job 21001 PDF) Abstract: We monitored Wildlife Management Unit (WMU) deer health, forest habitat health, and deer population trends using reproductive parameters from road-killed does, advanced tree seedling and sapling regeneration (ATSSR) from the Pennsylvania Regeneration Study, deer harvest estimates and compositions, and field studies. During the summer and fall of 2007, epizootic hemorrhagic disease, or EHD, was detected in deer in southwestern Pennsylvania. WMU 2A had the greatest number of reported deer deaths during the outbreak. Because the Game Commission uses information from hunters to assess deer population status, we conducted a survey to learn more about the affect of this EHD outbreak on deer hunting in WMU 2A. Deer health was judged to be “above target” in 2 WMUs, “at target” in 19 WMUs, “below target” in 1 WMU. Forest habitat health was judged to be good in 2 WMUs, fair in 15 WMUs, and poor in 4 WMUs. Hunters harvested 323,070 deer (109,200 antlered and 213,870 antlerless) in the 2007-08 deer seasons. Deer populations in most WMUs remained stable. Antlerless allocations were designed to reduce the population in 3 urban/suburban WMUs, increase the population in 3 WMUs, and keep the population steady in all remaining WMUs. We recommend the continuation of current regulations to monitor deer populations, and modification of antlerless allocations to change the antlerless deer harvests. |
RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
well said. i feel the in-line season should be in regular gun season. week before in-line season i have hunters STINKING up the area i hunt looking for a doe to shoot the week of doe oct in -line season. the buck go NOC-TURNAL. so, thats 2 weeks that i am out of commission in archery. if we had LOTS of deer,i would be first to say, LETS KILL FEW DOE OFF IN OCT,but thats not case in wmu2g. just to much doe killing . we are allowed 12 dpsm in clinton, sprouls rough figure its around 4 dpsm. |
RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
Sproulman,do small game hunters and their dogsstink up your woods and forrce the bucks to go nocturnal or do the small game hunters all just roadhunt?
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RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
ORIGINAL: DougE Sproulman,do small game hunters and their dogsstink up your woods and forrce the bucks to go nocturnal or do the small game hunters all just roadhunt?  i am lucky, no small game where i hunt my buck in archery,only IN-LINE PESTS.:) this is why when i grouse hunt,if i see a truck parked ,i go elsewhereas i know i will STINK UP that guys hunting area.;) |
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