Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
02-04-2009 | 06:15 PM
#161
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
Apples vs oranges. Period. Done intentionally makes it a lie. Period.
02-04-2009 | 06:26 PM
#162
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
I agree ,the five year averages posted by RSB were an intentional lie and i must admit he is one of the best liars on the MB.
Apples vs oranges. Period. Done intentionally makes it a lie. Period.
02-04-2009 | 07:09 PM
#164
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
ORIGINAL: DougE
Rich,Try SGL 93 and 77.Both have a ton of deer.I didn't hunt deer there this year but did hunt turkey alot in both places.I saw on average at least a dozen deer each morning I went out.I ride horses on SGL 93 quite a bit and see plenty of deer.I hunted the first day and the first saturday of rifle season on Evans fire tower rd in Penfield.All public land,few hunters and plenty of deer.I also spend alot of time on Seneca resource property,which runs into Moshannon state forest.I didn't hunt deer on it this year because I was late sending in for dmap's.Last year and the year before I killed two deer and saw loads in there.I walkedsome of that property after Christmas and saw sign all over the place.It's timber company land but it's dmap'dand open to the public.I also see deer everytime I hunt in Sinnemahoning.That's tough country up there but it keeps pressure to a minimum.Seriously Rich,there's good hunting all over this area on public land.You just have to stay away from the areas with no food,like Rockton mountain and SB elliot.Give me a call,the next time your at camp and I'll show you all of these places.
Rich,Try SGL 93 and 77.Both have a ton of deer.I didn't hunt deer there this year but did hunt turkey alot in both places.I saw on average at least a dozen deer each morning I went out.I ride horses on SGL 93 quite a bit and see plenty of deer.I hunted the first day and the first saturday of rifle season on Evans fire tower rd in Penfield.All public land,few hunters and plenty of deer.I also spend alot of time on Seneca resource property,which runs into Moshannon state forest.I didn't hunt deer on it this year because I was late sending in for dmap's.Last year and the year before I killed two deer and saw loads in there.I walkedsome of that property after Christmas and saw sign all over the place.It's timber company land but it's dmap'dand open to the public.I also see deer everytime I hunt in Sinnemahoning.That's tough country up there but it keeps pressure to a minimum.Seriously Rich,there's good hunting all over this area on public land.You just have to stay away from the areas with no food,like Rockton mountain and SB elliot.Give me a call,the next time your at camp and I'll show you all of these places.
That's close to an hour away from me doug I think.You figure about an hour from the town of clearfield?
02-04-2009 | 07:13 PM
#165
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
Covered alot of area doug anywhere from just north of clearfield to knobs rd throughout the mosh forest.Like joe {clearfield 12} not much luck.I have a few friends that hunt the mosh anywhere from knobs rd to chestnut ridge to parker dam and no luck lately.That's alot of area.
02-04-2009 | 08:29 PM
#166
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
Helicopters? nope.
Group size? Dont really know
Could any regular joe do it? Yes
Easy? No
Sorry guys, but I simply can't/won't because it's a very good, ingenious actually, idea that I have every intention of utilizing and if I post it on the net, it will get stomped all over by the masses.
Group size? Dont really know
Could any regular joe do it? Yes
Easy? No
Sorry guys, but I simply can't/won't because it's a very good, ingenious actually, idea that I have every intention of utilizing and if I post it on the net, it will get stomped all over by the masses.
1. Broadcasting fetilizers around mast bearing trees and preffered browse.
2. Creating a isolated water hole in a prime location. I'm not sure the legalities of either of these two, but I wonder if you do not dig, but rather find a shallow depression, and line the bottom with plastic and cover it with dirt to create a lasting reservoir for run off, if it would be legal.
3. Creating a scrape corridor, by tying down limbs in strategic places, and then treating the limb and soil beneath. Studies have shown the licking branch at preffered height is the most important factor.
4. Planting apple or persimmon trees in remote locations. Pretty sure this would be illegal on public lands.
If anyone knows the legalities of eachtactic. lemme know. Since I've never tried them, I never thought to research it.
02-05-2009 | 06:08 AM
#168
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
1. Broadcasting fetilizers around mast bearing trees and preffered browse.
2. Creating a isolated water hole in a prime location. I'm not sure the legalities of either of these two, but I wonder if you do not dig, but rather find a shallow depression, and line the bottom with plastic and cover it with dirt to create a lasting reservoir for run off, if it would be legal?
3. Creating a scrape corridor, by tying down limbs in strategic places, and then treating the limb and soil beneath. Studies have shown the licking branch at preffered height is the most important factor.
4. Planting apple or persimmon trees in remote locations. Pretty sure this would be illegal on public lands.
As far as the outfitters secret...... None of the above!
02-05-2009 | 07:12 PM
#169
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
I agree ,the five year averages posted by RSB were an intentional lie and i must admit he is one of the best liars on the MB.
Apples vs oranges. Period. Done intentionally makes it a lie. Period.
There was absolutely nothing at all deceptive about the data I presented. The harvest data for the various states all came from this web site.
http://www.buckmasters.com/bm/Resources/DeerHarvestSnapshot/tabid/184/Default.aspx
Which is the most current data I an find for the various states. If you can find anything more current please provide a link and I will use the more current data. All I did was add the years together and then divide that by the total land mass of the county so the various states can be compared fairly with harvests per square mile.
If you have a more far way of doing it the go ahead and post your results. The fact is there is nothing to indicate that Pennsylvania is anything but one of the best darn deer hunting states in the nation both today and in the past. I am very confident that it will remain a leader in deer populations and deer harvests long into the future too as long as the professionals can keep deer management on this sound scientific management course.
When I get time I will post the harvest data by state and by year though just so everyone can see how Pennsylvania ranks on an annual comparison. Perhaps tomorrow night if all goes well.
Just because you and the other USP folks don’t like the facts, since they don’t support your ranting, that doesn’t make those facts any less fact.
R.S. Bodenhorn
02-05-2009 | 07:27 PM
#170
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RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
As far as the outfitters secret...... None of the above!
Your secret is safe of course.
EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT FELLERS, IT'S TRULY INGENIUS!!
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