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Friday, January 16, 2009


Please Contact the Pennsylvania Game Commission Today!

Over the last several years, there has been a growing debate concerning the use of crossbows in Pennsylvania. At its upcoming meeting, the Pennsylvania Game Commission will be voting on a proposal that would make Pennsylvania the twelfth state to allow the use of crossbows during the state archery season. This meeting will be held from Sunday, January 25 to Tuesday, January 27. To view a copy of the agenda, please click here.

NRA strongly advocates for any expansion of hunter opportunity and choice when there is no biological reason to oppose the expansion. In fact, states that have allowed the use of crossbows have been able to maintain healthy wildlife populations. Additionally, the recruitment and retention of hunters has improved by removing crossbow restrictions. At a time when the number of hunters is declining, nothing is more important than the ongoing effort to preserve and strengthen our hunting heritage.

The Pennsylvania Game Commission has received input on both sides of the issue from stakeholders concerning this proposed change. It’s time the Pennsylvania Game Commission hear from the very sportsmen and hunters they represent. There is little doubt that non-hunters and “animal rights” forces will be active in making their voices heard, so it is vital that sportsmen speak loudly.

Please contact the members of the Pennsylvania Game Commission TODAY and respectfully ask that they act to preserve our cherished hunting heritage by voting for the inclusion of crossbows during the state archery season. Contact information for your Game Commissioner can be found below.

Roxane Palone, President
[email protected]

Greg Isabella, Vice-President
[email protected]

Jay Delaney, Jr., Secretary
[email protected]

Russell Schleiden
[email protected]

Tom Boop
[email protected]

Dave Schreffler
[email protected]

Ron Weaner
[email protected]

thread from crossbow forum on hunting net

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It's a done deal!!!


Hatchet Jack

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looks like it jack

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Congrats to the hunters of Pa, more choice is always a good thing.

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Done to all!

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It is?

I don’t think I would put a lot of money on that bet one way or the other. I suspect it is far from the done deal some seem to think.

R.S. Bodenhorn

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Hold yer horses there fella. It's not "game over" yet.
There's a trouble brewin' in yer corner, orso I hear.

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Yep, I already been collaborating w/ him and his questions. I am wondering if he's one of you all that are so vehemntly gainst the Crossbow. But his question was a gooder, and I hope I answered it to his liking and understanding. This is a good bru ha-ha coming to PA. The only winners as usual will be the Anti[s, as you will need the Xbow vote to get the numbers to defeat their agenda as outlined in previous posts. So does winning this against a hunter make you a winner?

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its not a done deal.

i think they got my survey of local hunters here in clinton county,THEY DONT WANT THEM.......

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Nice spin. He will not vote yes without an amendment prohibiting, among other things, the use of scopes during archery season.
Painting me as helping anti-hunters might be a good ploy, but it is an underhanded tactic. I can't worry or care. I stand by my conviction.

Don't forget about the commissioner that wasn't counted before that now will be voting, and votingNO.
Even that isn't the full extent....there's still more...;)

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i guess we will have to wait till the votes come in and be:Dor[:@]

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buck, i go to lot of meeting,bear check stations, many opportunities for ANTIS to show up.

not 1 time did i ever see ANTI get up and talk.

they must be secret organization.

i think this ANTI thing is overblown.

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i will be there,unless weather gets bad or wife at last minute does not want to go.;)

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I can't make itto Harrisburgfor sure. I have responses from one commisioner who took the time to respond to my emails regarding expansion of XBow hunting. He is on records as against and i do not beleive he will be turned. his thoughts were make a Xbow seasona and add a fee for that season, shorten for a couple years the arch season until you see what the Xbow impact is or don't change a thing.
Because of the constant hunting pressure by sportsmen in PA, I am for a shortened bow seasonby 2-3 weeks. I think it will be positive for deer nimbers and lower the kill rate in the over harvested or low deer population areas. That I beleive will be fair to all the hnters as we are working 'together' to increase deer populations in areas that need help. It makes all sportsman equal in terms of hunting opportunitites, instead of the priviledged few that do not want to share the woods w/ other types of weapons hunting. Ater all bow hunting can be done in any season so it is in actuality the longest season. You still have bow only so your needs are catered to and you don't have to worrry abouthe Xbow factor invading your woods. That is what am recommending for all , just not a priviledged few!

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do to lacK of deer in wmu2g, its very hard to get buck in archery, i only hunt buck and on SFL do to very few doe left.

throw in a lot of hunters with crossbows, almost impossible to get buck with pressure, they will become very noc-turnal, they already are do to early in-line season.[:@]

just to much hunting going on in wmu2g in archery to add more pressure to few deer that are left.

it took me 4 weeks to get a look at buck i was after in archery.

this was do to hunters stinking up place where i hunt SCOUTINGfor in-line season,YOU JUST CANT HUNT WITH ALL THAT STINK IN WOODS IN ARCHERY.

gun season, it does not matter as much as deer are pushed more by crews ,so you will see deer.


i dont hate a crossbow, i hate all new hunters stinking up woods in archery and ones that think they are GUN and can shoot 60 yds .


sadly, the ethical hunters are good people,they dont go into your area and stink it up,they shoot under 30 yds, they practice, they tune, they are great people, its all these other STINKIN UP YOUR AREA 60 YD HUNTERS THAT GET ME MAD.[:@]

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Thats b/s the bow seson is short enough and there not the only ones in
the woods you get only 2 weeks or so archry only then you get
junior/seniors out with guns then inlines for aweek small game
fall turkeys they crame everything in with bow now!
Priviledged few get a bow and go out and be privileged
myself i like the crossbow in with bows i think the bumblin fools
that think bow hunters are privileged will quit even with crossbows
because it still not as easy as the rifle slaughter fest

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I DONT NEED TO KILL A BUCK TO HAVE FUN IN ARCHERY.

but you are right,in-line scouting and season in oct has ruined my area,too many stinkin up area ,now add more with crossbow, ugh, i dont want to see that.[:@]

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bowtruck I agree 100 % w/that statement.

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Buckhunter..you said a mouthfull, and you said before that fears of shortened seasons were unwarranted, but now you are asking for that very thing.
I am reaffirmed. Stick your x-guns.

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actually what i am hearing at range and bow shops, i go to 2 is MOST of compound hunters are going to buy a CROSSBOW.

so, they got 600 in their compounds and going to give it up to buy a crossbow for 600.

those same archers told me a year ago they would still keep their compounds, nope they are getting rid of them for crossbow.

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way things are going, i will need 8 months of archery to get buck,heck, i did not get buck this year and i hunted real hard in archery and not too hard in gun.

too much STINK in woods

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livbuks, not so happy now huh? Interesting you can slam me and keep me out of the woods because i shopot a crossbow, but of course what is good for the goose is not good for the gander eh? Leave all the deer and seasons for you , huh?What I told Boop, we should be inclusive not seclusive with our hunting opportunities.You are letting the door open for anti's to split us hunters up. I hope you have the numbers in the compound bow community to hold em' off if we don't get the right to hunt and support hunting in PA. . Because i do not beleive you will get any support from a community that has been banned, scorned and banished from the woods in PA.

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You are right there buck hunter in this time all hunters should unite
to me a bow is a bow crossbow fits
we dont need to be split up now by anti look at new goverment , pres,
senete alot of anti guns,anti hunting got swor in over last few weeks

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Where are you coming up with the anti talk?
Your rhetoric reaks of political spin and scare tactics.
You want to hunt archery?...be an archer. The advent of crossbows simply makes it easier for the liberal socialist Democrats to take our guns. Your lobby is secretly working for people the likes of Soros, who are slowly undermining our Constitution. X-guns in....real guns out.

Hope you're proud!

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Can't people see how the x-gun instantly makes every hunter an archery hunter? It will nulify the sportsman from the gun debate. Dry up the coffers of the NRA and result in the elimination of gun ownership in America.

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For bowtruck. A couple questions to know and understand you better. Did you ever use a recurve or compound bow? If you did, why is your passion now for a crossbow?

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livbucks, this is the same type of spin currently being spread by you my friend.:eek: I think they should moratorium arch hunting at rut oe all of November. Then the gunhunters would have more opportunity at big bucks that ONLY archery season has now. Because truth is a lot more gun hunters than arch guys, and maybe if we banded that group against your group we could seriously divide the sportsman? Get a life livbuks you don't own my woods you don't own PA and othe rpeople have opinions that need to be heard. Again, Elitist!

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I used a recurve and a compound i have also shot in comps with
the both of them crossbow is not a passion i just dont see the big
problem with them.
For the records blkpowder i shoot both long and compound about
10 mth a year i am all practiced up and if crossbows are legal i will
use one i will also use my compound but if i am going to sit in a blind
on a rainy day a xbow would be nice. but furthermore i dont think it
should matter if you ever picked any bow up in your life if they make
x bows legal or not if a person want to buy a xbow and hasent ever
bow hunted i think they will be in for a surprize but they would have that
right

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deer wounded will be thesurprise.

putting scope on it and showing yds to 50/60 yds in scope,these non ethical hunters are what will do it.

i hear them all time,it turns my stomach.


they should take these crossbows,reduced the scope to 30 yds and make it so bow CANT shoot past 30 yds,have the arrow drop 5 ft at 40 yds.

then i would be to point, i would go along with crossbow for hunting.

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BH1 the more I read of your posts the more I am convinced that you are not so much a crossbow supporter as you are simply intent on antagonizing archery hunters

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Real archers shy from hunting during rain. It makes bloodtrailing difficult and results in loss of animals. A good reason for BTB's idea of archer ed.

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other peoples ethics they can and do try to shoot 50,60,70,80 yards with a long,compound,or crossbow
people wound them with trad muzz inlines they wound them with highly powererd mag rifles so that cup
has a hole in the bottom the size of the bottom

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i left a buck go last week of archery because he was 33 yds in wind, 15 minutes from dark and a storm coming at 7 pm..

most would have shot at that deer;)

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very true ,i had a hunter i stopped said he missed 6 doe in 2 weeks with muzzleloader he bought the friday before opening of flintlock.he hunted everyday for 2 weeks with his 2 brothers pushing for him.

he said, sproul they were running like heck thru woods when i shot.

unreal isnt it.[:@]



he was proud as h that he saw and missed that many deer.

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Since i am color blind a blood trail is useless to me i have always found
every deer i have shot with a bow
Real archers shy from hunting in rain not if you cant see blood can
hit in the kill zone every time and have cofidence you can and will find it
If i am not a Real archer to you to bad it doesnt matter to me what
you think
Archer ed pufffffffffffff i have been out in the ARCHERS woods for decades
I see you are a spinner too

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You can surely see blackish drops and spatters in leaves, I hope.

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The idea of bowhunter ed is torequire it for new bowhunters, not to drag experienced hunters into a class they don't need.

I've already said that I'm pretty neutral on crossbows but am worried that it is likely to be attractive to people who have not gotten into archery till now because it's NOT easy. If the crossbow winds up attracting people expecting an easy way to archery hunt, those people could probably benefit from mandatory bowhunter ed.

Again,I support bowhunter ed for newbies only, not for existing archery hunters;)

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you are not color blind livbucks black specs in fall color change[&:]
secondly i am getting old enough i dont like to play in the rain
but if it has been raining for 2 days and i see its going to have front move throu and quit raining
at 2 you bet i will be out there and ready by 1230 if that also makes someone not a Real archer so be it
sometimes i can only get out on a rainy day and i want to go i do guess i am not a Real archer
or in your case maybe a TRophy hunter

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bowtruck. I hope I didn't offend you? I was just want to understand better, you and others.About the need forlegalizing crossbows. Just trying to get a better veiw from the other side of the fence.

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if the present compound hunters change to crossbows, i think they will, we will still have ethical hunters out there with crossbow, thats great.;)

but, YOU ARE RIGHT, its these new hunters that did not hunt archery because you have to practice with compound, you have to with crossbow too BUT THEY DONT THINK YOU DO [:@]

they think they are gun,scope, pull up and shoot to 50 yds.

trust me, they are making those shots too at deer but not hitting them or wounding them, cant prove that but feel its happening.

if those type of hunters stay out of woods, let crossbows in .