And I'll bet that a lot of the deer you say were over harvested ,were some of the same deer you saw later on the P&G property. As you know ,in farm country ,heavily hunted deer will travel significant distances to find a secure area.

BTW, what is you definition of an over harvest?

I highly doubt it BT.

You may doubt it ,but I've seen it happen in areas where I hunted and there is no reason why it wouldn't happen around P&G.

BTW, what is your definition of an over harvest?

It's tough to define.However,I remember years when 40+ deer were killed on less than 300 acres.One year in particular,I think it was 85' or 86' we had snow cover.You literally couldn't walk more than a couple hundred yardswithout seeing a blood trail or gut pile.The woods looked like a slaughter house.I remember,driving those same areas out in muzzleloader season that year and hardly even cutting a track.I honestly remeber thinking every deer had to have been killed but the deer always returned the next year when the crops started coming up.As a kid growing up,competition for a spot was fierce.Today,it's rare if I even see another hunter in the woods.I can honestly say,no way did hunters even slightly impact deer numbers in any of the multiple places on public land where I've hunted the past three years.I don't see hunters or boot prints.Unless pa hunters float above the ground like Pa mountain lions,our public lands in the northcentral part of the state are very under utilized.


Those deer never went to P & G property.

Douge I have personaly seen deer on pg prop why dont you think they would go there

P & G property is loaded with deer.That isn't the question.BB is trying to say that they traveled several miles to get there when pressured.

oh i see sorry dougE

Back to the main question.



Yes..... If given a choice, I always shoot the BB.


I hunt in 2A. I feel that bucks get too much protection, especiallly with the 4pt AR in place in that area.

I see lots of sub legal bucks when hunting. I've seen some pretty impressive 6points too.

There are times I'd see more bucks than does.

The EHD that hit that area last year really took a toll on the deer, yet this years I still seen 6 bucks and 4 does on the first day.

I see fewer deer nowadays but of what I do see, most are bucks.

So yeah, shoot the BB's

All of the land from the junction of RT 6 and Rt. 87 to Meshoppen is within 2 miles of the PGC property. Since the majority of that land is open fields, it is not at all unreasonable for deer to travel 2 miles to find a secure area.

How long do you think it takes a spooked deer to run a mile?

Here is what you posted before on another thread.
Now you are telling us that hunters harvested 80 deer PSM in the same area where you claimed to see less than 12 deer/day. So which story is the truth?

hey bb do you know how fast they can run and for how long ?
must be a stat on that somewhere