What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Can gas lines and powerlines be posted with no tresspassing signs or are they void if they do post them? Didn't thes companies buy these property and they can't be owned?

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

As I understand it the companies just by the right to construct and maintain the utility. The landowner still has the right to limit access and use the land as long as it doesn't interfere with the utility. The landowner also gets to pay the taxes on that land.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Does it work like leased property then?

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I was always under the impression that the right of way is only an access point for the utility. The landowner can post it if he wants since it's still his land. The utility doesn't need to heed the posted signs, but everyone else does.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

How about border locked SGLs surrounded by private property?

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If you are walking on private property, regardless of the reason then you are trespassing. Pretty simple.

Is there really a SGL with no public access that is completely surrounded by private property? I doubt it.

I did have asimilar situation hunting in Illiniois though. The piece of public land I wanted to access was on the other side of a farm. I just approached the farmer and he gave me the go ahead. It saved me a two mile walk everyday. I suggest you do the same.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

You want to bet on that?

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Also,no one should have to ask permission to enter SGLs.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Well, which one is it then? I find it hard to believe that we have a SGL in this state that is completely landlocked with no public access.

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I do ,it is against the law in PA totrasnfer land in this state that has no access.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

How much you wanna bet?

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What ever you want the laws pretty clear in PA.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

What is your point here man? I mean, you come on here asking questions. People try to help, then you turn it around with the "you wanna bet" crap like you had the answers all along. What a circle jerk.

Post up the SGL that is landlocked so we cam all benefit from your vast wisdom.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

I was looking for the map on it moron. Here it is know it alls. Only way to get to it and not reallylegal and suicidal without permission is to cross the interstate. Everything around it is owned by others. No access at all without going thru someones property to reach it. It's the lower part below I80.

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/game/maps/zoom_maps.asp?sgl=77&rgn=Northcentral

Got google earth also?


Lat 41° 8'25.86"N
Long 78°46'17.45"W

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Moron is a bit harsh don't ya think? Especially since I was originally trying to help you. This moron looked at the map and downloaded the high res pdf. Sure looks to me like an access road runs right through the middle of the thing, but what do I know. I'm just a moron.:eek:

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Again yes moron a bit harsh but it calls for it now. Them are gas lines and not roads, There is no roads that go into there other than property tram roads. There is no access and no dirt or gravel or paved roads at all. I should know this. I hunt itoften with a few friends.

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So you are calling me names again for no reason. If that property is landlocked, then the map is completely wrong along with the map legend. Is there a rifle range there like it shows on the map? If so, how does anyone get to it?

What's the matter with you man? Why the hate?

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Sorry about the moron bit. Just didn't like the circle jerk comment moron.:D

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Rifle range on other side of I80. Access easy over there. Like I said. Border locked below I80. Posted by I believe 4 or 5 land owners around it.I do have to tresspass to get to it. No one said anything yet so I am not worried about it. Just would like a legal way to access without having to ask permission. I bought a license to help pay for that land. I want no hassle access to it.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

It looks like there are a couple or three unimproved roads south of I80 that run right up to the SGL. Is that where the posted signs are?

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Yes, Like I said there is no access to that place without asking permission or tresspassing. Them roads are no longer accessible. Use to be the old city dump for like leaves and stumps but no longer accessable. Them roads didn't go up to the SGL anyways. They stopped about 300yrds from them. There use to be lots of big deer up there and alot of deer for that matter. Only a few people hunted it. Ever since the doe tags came out in large quanity that place has been dead for deer I have to say. But there are a few deer left up in that area because of the posted land. Not many but some. But back on track. No access. I even asked the PGC and they told me to ask the farmer if I could use their property to access it. I was like WTF? I shouldn't have to ask anyone to access that property. That is no BS to. It was over at the rifle range I asked them when they was looking it over to remodel it. They was dumb founded when I told them all access was closed and blocked to get there. It is all land locked.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Call and talk to the Land Manager in that region.

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You got a number for them? I am not BS either. All is unaccessible around it without asking permission or tresspassing.

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(570) 398-4744

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Thank you WCO R.W.J. Appreciate it.

To everyone else.I just like to give people a hard time sometimes. ;)

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Hope they get it worked out for you.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

No ones right to access public land superceeds any landowners tights.
If you don't ask me before entering my land for whatever the reason,you will be in court.
It will get real expensive quick.

Steve

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

You mean that landowners cannot be compelled to provide easement access to landlocked public ground?

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

I believe that is against the law to deny access to public land. That is the only reason I walk the gasline to access the SGL here.I don't want to go thru someones posted property. The gaslines and powerlines are not posted. But both sides are up to the SGL. It is like a 10 minute hike up this pike to get to the SGL also. A good work out for sure. But I am a strong believer of the land owners rights and wouldn't want people tresspassing on my property if I had it posted. Thats why I asked about right aways.

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I was under the impression that a landowner can be compelled to provide easement, but that it can be a long, expensive legal battle to do it.

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SGL 77is about 2 miles from my house and is less than 200 yards from my office,whereI'm sitting right now.There's a twp road called county line road that cuts it right in half.That road hasmultiple parking lots and access points.You can also access the game lands from Treasure lake and numerous other locations that are private but open to public use.

I actually have no idea how you can say that there's no public access.You certainly don't have to access it by walking up a power line.

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I thought I read the post wrong but I didn't.SGL 77 has public access points all over the place.If you're talking about the piece og the Dubois side of I80,you can park in my parking lot.SGL 77 is literally 200 yards from my back door.You can also park at the Pilot and walk back in.If you're nice and you ask,Fairmans would most likely let you walk through their fields.That side of SGL77 gets hammered.The hunting is much better onthe other side of the interstate and there's looadsof deer.

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Your on the wrong side doug. There is the other half below I80. There is no county road thru there. You know there is a south and north SGL77 don't ya? I posted a pic of it on here. Maybe take a look at it.

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I understand that.You can park in my parking lot and be on the game lands in less than 1 minute.call me and I'll show you where to park and how to get up there.Alot of guys also come in from Pilot and the clarion hotel.Fairman's farm borders the opposite side down by interstate.Those guys are all close friends of mine.I'd be more than happy to introduce them to you.They won't let you drive back but they will let you walk in if you have permission.

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Yes, that is the side I talk about doug. I use to be able to access it thru the old dump there. I have talked to a few people up there and they park by the tower but go thru fairmans place. This side use to be a game reserve back in the 50s I been told by a man I was talking to up there. Use to be some monster bucks up there. This was before they stripped it for coal. Use to be albinos up there to.It is a walk when your trapping it for sure. I go up thru the stone village area where most others also park and walk up thru.

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My office is in stone side village.Stop in and say Hi some time.That side of the game lands is actually pretty small.I keep my horses next door to Fairman's and ride through there quite a bit.It takes me less than an hour to do a loop around the whole gamelands.

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Like I said. There should be a road right to that area along with parking also. Thank you for the permission. Might take you up on it after deer season. Like I said, A walk to trap it.

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Do you know that you can actually go under the interstate to access that part of the game lands.It's a hike from county line road but it can be done.

What are you trappin for?I know one of the Fairman's killed a yote back there this week.

RE: What can be posted in Pennsylvania?
 

Might have to do so. I helped with the construction of them. Well the drywall and dividers anyway. I walked up there saturday. Just as I started up that gasline I turned around and 5 does ran within 30 feet of me down into that thicket where that little pond is in the bottom. I could of took one real easy,but to close to the buildings there.

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I took couple yotes up there above that field on that tram road.The one you can see the bottom. Down where that tunnel is your talking about. Yea, like you said,that is a trot to get to it though.

Fox also. Not as many as there was. I use to see them and tracks up there alot. On the other side of I80, You want to talk about yotes. Yotes all over on that side.