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Pa hunters will kill deer until the last one no longer stands. Afterall, that'sthe main reasonthe PGC came into existance....hunters wiped out the herd.The PGC and DCNR suddenly realized this againsomewhere along the line, and use it to their full advantage to satisfy the wants of various groups like Ben Moyers Eco Management Project.

What are you to do? Well I have my thoughts, but I better not post them. Best just to say it's a shame that 3rd one got away.

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You Pa guys. Seems everyone of you have a degree in game managment. Everyone has the answer and knowhow on how to fix Pa's deer problem. Amazing to say the least.

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Cardeer,thanks but I have more opportunities around here than Ihave the time for.I agree that seeing alot of deer is exciting.I remember the days back in the early 80's where seeing dozens of deer a day were not uncommon.The hunting was easy and we became spoiled.Today,I find it much more gratifying to actually have to hunt for deer.It's a year long mission for me and I take it serious.

Germain,you are correct.2G has alot of places with very few if any deer.Thing is,every one of these areas that I know of also has very little if any food to sustain a large deer herd over the winter.Why would anyone want to add more deer to these places?

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Rickmur,please feel free to dazzle us with your brilliance on a solution to our deer problem since we are so inept at resolving our own problems.God knows we don't contribute enough money to have a say in what goes on in this state.Is it a democracy down in the Cheasapeke or do you guys just do what your told ?

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Doug,one thing I find in common with the areas devoid of deer is easy access.Some of these places could use a few deer.In the SE and SC public lands most cases the habitat isn't an issue.Overharvesting is.
These areas could and should hold more deer but do do that another management option would have to take place.

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germain,i feel your pain.come out to sw pa and try hunting the wastelands they call gamelands around the Burgettstown area or down in Greene County near Ryerson Station Park and you'll have the same issues.Plenty of food,just no deer.

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Rich,I don't doubt that public land near populated areas gets hammered.That simply doesn't happen around here.Sightings are down in this part of the state because nobdy is out there moving the deer.

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[quoteRickmur,please feel free to dazzle us with your brilliance on a solution to our deer problem since we are so inept at resolving our own problems][/quote]

fella, I'm not the one talking **** here, never said I had the answer nor ever implied I did. I'm not as smart as you or theother self proclaimed professors of game magt. You can take that to the bank;)

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Because the deer in 2G have proven that the habitat in 2G can support over twice as many deer as we currently have in 2G. The habitat in 2G supported a buck harvest of 10,100 buck in 2003, compared to a buck harvest of 5100 in 2007. Furthermore , the PGC said the herd was below its goal deer density in 2003!

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Apparently you've never seen huge vast areas of pole and saw timber with no understory or browse.We have huge areas like that in 2G and it makes no sense to add more deer to that type of habitat.If the deer are eating everything that starts to regenerate,you have too mnay deer,regardless of how many are there.That's the reality in many places.