PA WMA 2D
04-25-2008 | 01:01 PM
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PA WMA 2D
Looks like the bucks only first week has been passed in 2D. I love it, people stay in the woods. I watch and hear people shoot brown, down and out of the woods on the first day.
I do think the 4 point one side is provising larger deer and hopefully w/this law not all the button buclks are massacreed the first day.
I do think the 4 point one side is provising larger deer and hopefully w/this law not all the button buclks are massacreed the first day.
04-26-2008 | 09:18 AM
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From: pa soon to be greenup county ky
RE: PA WMA 2D
yes buck hunter i hunt 5a 4a and 2g i only archery hunt in 2g mckean county so it hasnt affected me much yet if it did i wouldnt mind its a welcome change now the people who were shooting anything the first few days maybe they wont scare the bucks back so soon now even since the change i still didnt show doe until the saturdays.
04-28-2008 | 12:52 PM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
All this is going to do is overly focus on bucks that first week which will allow many more to be killed, which will make 09 a very down year.
I am very displeased that this went thru.
I am very displeased that this went thru.
04-29-2008 | 06:18 AM
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All this is going to do is overly focus on bucks that first week which will allow many more to be killed
rybohunter, How can you not overly focus on them now? You have tocount 4 on one side prior to pulling the trigger, statistics show that 50% of the buck kill happens on the first day, after that I don't see the hunters in the field and the deer are settled pretty much back to routine.
In addtion to the long bow season, There is plenty of opportunity to kill meat deer and shoot large bucks undisturbed.
I guess I am not understanding what you are saying or meaning with that comment. You have about 6-9 weeks bow hunting ANY deer. I have 1 week w/ a gun buck only. Personally I pop does for meat and hunt bigger bucks. I pass many young or small bucks who are carrying 4 on one side. I also spend time hunting in the woods. I do concentrate on bucks!!!
04-29-2008 | 10:16 AM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
Yea you completely misunderstood me.
I feel that having the 1st week buck only will make for a higher overall buck harvest because that will be all you can shoot during that time. With concurrent seasons, some guys are likely to shoot does, and take timeaway from the pursuit of bucks. It's just my opinion that more bucks will get shot over the course of a one week buck only/one week concurrent setup, than would during a 2 week concurrent season. That's all. Has not a thing to do with comparing bow/gun or counting points or whatever.
I feel that having the 1st week buck only will make for a higher overall buck harvest because that will be all you can shoot during that time. With concurrent seasons, some guys are likely to shoot does, and take timeaway from the pursuit of bucks. It's just my opinion that more bucks will get shot over the course of a one week buck only/one week concurrent setup, than would during a 2 week concurrent season. That's all. Has not a thing to do with comparing bow/gun or counting points or whatever.
04-29-2008 | 02:43 PM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
ORIGINAL: Buck Hunter 1
rybohunter, How can you not overly focus on them now? You have tocount 4 on one side prior to pulling the trigger, statistics show that 50% of the buck kill happens on the first day, after that I don't see the hunters in the field and the deer are settled pretty much back to routine.
In addtion to the long bow season, There is plenty of opportunity to kill meat deer and shoot large bucks undisturbed.
I guess I am not understanding what you are saying or meaning with that comment. You have about 6-9 weeks bow hunting ANY deer. I have 1 week w/ a gun buck only. Personally I pop does for meat and hunt bigger bucks. I pass many young or small bucks who are carrying 4 on one side. I also spend time hunting in the woods. I do concentrate on bucks!!!
All this is going to do is overly focus on bucks that first week which will allow many more to be killed
rybohunter, How can you not overly focus on them now? You have tocount 4 on one side prior to pulling the trigger, statistics show that 50% of the buck kill happens on the first day, after that I don't see the hunters in the field and the deer are settled pretty much back to routine.
In addtion to the long bow season, There is plenty of opportunity to kill meat deer and shoot large bucks undisturbed.
I guess I am not understanding what you are saying or meaning with that comment. You have about 6-9 weeks bow hunting ANY deer. I have 1 week w/ a gun buck only. Personally I pop does for meat and hunt bigger bucks. I pass many young or small bucks who are carrying 4 on one side. I also spend time hunting in the woods. I do concentrate on bucks!!!
What I fail to understand is why in the world a hunter has to wait until the first Saturday to shoot a doe in 2D??? This is a far cry from the situation in 2G and others. In the areas I hunt in 2D, there are plenty of deer, and truthfully, some serious harvesting needs to be done. I don't get it................
04-29-2008 | 07:09 PM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
I live on the 2B-2D line and I don't know of any part of 2D where there aren't plenty of does. I can see Rybo's point.Some guys would quit after shooting a doe early on. Maybe they don't go back out and thereforeless pressure is put on the bucks. I guess we'll all know soon enough.
I don't think it will result in lower doe kills because we'll effectively have two "opening days"
I don't think it will result in lower doe kills because we'll effectively have two "opening days"
04-30-2008 | 05:55 AM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
I wasn't dissing Rybow, merely questioning the thoughts. I know 2D is loaded w/ doe, we have herds of 20 and 30 deer feeding pur plots. I am up in northern 2D and you can't go anywhere w/out running into deer.
Just as an aside, we try to kill our does early on, someone brought in the theory of shooting them before rut, less prego does whacked and less does in the herd. It t is bad enough that we pretty much know where the bucks are as they don't have to travel for companionship.
Interesting that 1-2 hours north, my friends are selling camps they have had for 30 years because no deer.
Just as an aside, we try to kill our does early on, someone brought in the theory of shooting them before rut, less prego does whacked and less does in the herd. It t is bad enough that we pretty much know where the bucks are as they don't have to travel for companionship.
Interesting that 1-2 hours north, my friends are selling camps they have had for 30 years because no deer.
04-30-2008 | 06:58 AM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
It's all about quality habitat buck hunter.Poor habitat=few deer.Decades of having too many deer devistated the habitat in the northern tier.Now there's less deer and the habitat is starting to recover.
04-30-2008 | 07:03 AM
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RE: PA WMA 2D
ORIGINAL: DougE
It's all about quality habitat buck hunter.Poor habitat=few deer.Decades of having too many deer devistated the habitat in the northern tier.Now there's less deer and the habitat is starting to recover.
It's all about quality habitat buck hunter.Poor habitat=few deer.Decades of having too many deer devistated the habitat in the northern tier.Now there's less deer and the habitat is starting to recover.