How Many Of You Pa Hunters ever>>>>
01-18-2002, 02:30 AM
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How Many Of You Pa Hunters ever>>>>
Hunt other states regularly and i dont mean the states that border Pa.? I hear alot of comparisons to other states and honestly notice alot of myth propagated. The Pa dutch people are a strange lot.They seem to think the world starts and ends here.They dont ever want to look past there own noses. I know people my age that never traveled more then a couple of states away in there whole life.I suggest before anyone including myself make any comparisons to other states regarding deer management they experience the world of hunting outside are state. I assure you if you hunt the midwest or south your eyes are going to be opend up.Your going to wonder why you thought some of the things you thought all your hunting life.Really if you leave Pa ,the world wont come to a END
01-18-2002, 05:05 AM
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RE: How Many Of You Pa Hunters ever>>>>
I have never hunted outside of PA, CD....but then again I have never compared PA to any other place either...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
01-18-2002, 05:31 AM
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I have only hunted Ny and Ohio myself.I did hunt OKla one year where I was stationed in the airforce,but not long enough to compare to any state.I am really satisfied right were I am at.I am not a trophy hunter but would not pass one up.I am older now and most of my hunting time now is for my son and nephews so if they get a deer I am happy right here in Pa.
01-18-2002, 02:27 PM
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Hmmmmm, I have hunted Colorado once. I managed to get a nice bull elk. I have never hunted any other state for whitetails, but I might hunt south texas next year. My uncle lives there and he purchased a lot of land. He told me that they have some nice bucks on the property and that I could come down to hunt them. I might go, see what Texas is REALLY like.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
01-18-2002, 04:31 PM
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RE: How Many Of You Pa Hunters ever>>>>
Cardeer,
I happen to be one of those Pennsylvania Dutchmen. I did hunt out of the state because I lived outside the state.
I went to school in Virginia and lived there for three years. I hunted west of the Blue Ridge on the Jefferson National Forest. That was truly God's country. Probably more so than Potter County. I could bow hunt for most of the fall and winter and I had thousands of acres to myself for most of the archery season. I killed several buck with my bow down there. They had check stations and I could kill two bucks or two does or combinations there of a year there. Virginia had lots of turkeys and fox squirrels to chase around and even a few mountain rabbits.
Next I moved to Tennessee near the Land Between the Lakes and Fort Campbell in Kentucky. The deer hunting was even better than Virginia. You could bow hunt from mid September to January and could kill many deer on the various tags you got. I killed my biggest buck in Tennessee. I spent five years in Tennessee and bought a "sportsman's" license for three of those years. That was the best deal I ever had. I could get all the hunting and fishing licenses all on one plastic card that I could carry in my wallet. That is a concept that PA would never consider. We have to wear our license plates in plain view. You could hunt on Sundays and this was a state in the middle of the "Bible Belt".
Next, I moved to Ohio where the "wonderful" crippling crossbow was legal. I lived in the heart of Amish country and they had most of the deer killed off in one fashion or another. I hunted there three years on the Muskingum watershed grounds and saw three yearling bucks. Not too impressive. I got permission to hunt private ground and there were even less deer there than on the watershed grounds. Ohio did not impress me but they did open hunting on Sundays and if you had access to the right private ground you could kill gigantic bucks. What I also liked about Ohio was that you could hunt on your primary hunting license without buying special tags and you had an archery season that lasted until Mid-January. While I was there they got rid of the back tag and allowed hunters to carry their licenses in their wallets. What a novel idea!
I moved back to PA three years ago and it was the same old krap. Too many hunters on public ground and the same old limited access on private ground. If you are not kin or a friend you can not get access. Same old Pennsylvania Dutch mentality of "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine!" We still did not have Sunday hunting, still had a short bow season (threatening to make it even shorter), and still had the same old stodgy laws. I have seen more squabbling in Pennsylvania over game related issues than in any of the other states I lived in.
Now if you have bothered to keep reading this you probably are asking why I moved back to PA. My family is here and I would rather put up with the BS than not have the chance to let my kids grow up with their grandparents. If I were an orphan I would live in Tennessee.
Now for the good points of PA. Pennsylvania has wonderful public access to hunting grounds. Better than in the other states I lived in. I think that Alt's ideas are great. The only issue I had a problem with is the October rifle hunt because I in my Pennsylvania Dutch fashion am greedy about this time of year and how it would affect the bow hunting.
I have also hunted Wyoming for mule deer where you have to get drawn to hunt (That Sucks!). I have hunted Kentucky and West Virginia. I have also spent some time in Delaware. I think that Delaware is the best deal for nonresident hunters. It’s a shame that they do not have more public ground. I would like to hunt Maryland and New York but it looks like they have more squirrely laws than dear old PA and less public ground. In true Pennsylvania Dutch form I refuse to kiss rears to have hunting access. In years past, I lost too much private ground access to houses and pissed off landowners that I did not help to create.
I hunt public ground because I hope I can show my son and daughter good places to hunt when they come to age that will not have a posted sign placed on it in their lifetimes.
Just One Dutchman's Opinion,
Gar-Shooter
My family has been in Pennsylvania for over three hundred years.
I happen to be one of those Pennsylvania Dutchmen. I did hunt out of the state because I lived outside the state.
I went to school in Virginia and lived there for three years. I hunted west of the Blue Ridge on the Jefferson National Forest. That was truly God's country. Probably more so than Potter County. I could bow hunt for most of the fall and winter and I had thousands of acres to myself for most of the archery season. I killed several buck with my bow down there. They had check stations and I could kill two bucks or two does or combinations there of a year there. Virginia had lots of turkeys and fox squirrels to chase around and even a few mountain rabbits.
Next I moved to Tennessee near the Land Between the Lakes and Fort Campbell in Kentucky. The deer hunting was even better than Virginia. You could bow hunt from mid September to January and could kill many deer on the various tags you got. I killed my biggest buck in Tennessee. I spent five years in Tennessee and bought a "sportsman's" license for three of those years. That was the best deal I ever had. I could get all the hunting and fishing licenses all on one plastic card that I could carry in my wallet. That is a concept that PA would never consider. We have to wear our license plates in plain view. You could hunt on Sundays and this was a state in the middle of the "Bible Belt".
Next, I moved to Ohio where the "wonderful" crippling crossbow was legal. I lived in the heart of Amish country and they had most of the deer killed off in one fashion or another. I hunted there three years on the Muskingum watershed grounds and saw three yearling bucks. Not too impressive. I got permission to hunt private ground and there were even less deer there than on the watershed grounds. Ohio did not impress me but they did open hunting on Sundays and if you had access to the right private ground you could kill gigantic bucks. What I also liked about Ohio was that you could hunt on your primary hunting license without buying special tags and you had an archery season that lasted until Mid-January. While I was there they got rid of the back tag and allowed hunters to carry their licenses in their wallets. What a novel idea!
I moved back to PA three years ago and it was the same old krap. Too many hunters on public ground and the same old limited access on private ground. If you are not kin or a friend you can not get access. Same old Pennsylvania Dutch mentality of "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine!" We still did not have Sunday hunting, still had a short bow season (threatening to make it even shorter), and still had the same old stodgy laws. I have seen more squabbling in Pennsylvania over game related issues than in any of the other states I lived in.
Now if you have bothered to keep reading this you probably are asking why I moved back to PA. My family is here and I would rather put up with the BS than not have the chance to let my kids grow up with their grandparents. If I were an orphan I would live in Tennessee.
Now for the good points of PA. Pennsylvania has wonderful public access to hunting grounds. Better than in the other states I lived in. I think that Alt's ideas are great. The only issue I had a problem with is the October rifle hunt because I in my Pennsylvania Dutch fashion am greedy about this time of year and how it would affect the bow hunting.
I have also hunted Wyoming for mule deer where you have to get drawn to hunt (That Sucks!). I have hunted Kentucky and West Virginia. I have also spent some time in Delaware. I think that Delaware is the best deal for nonresident hunters. It’s a shame that they do not have more public ground. I would like to hunt Maryland and New York but it looks like they have more squirrely laws than dear old PA and less public ground. In true Pennsylvania Dutch form I refuse to kiss rears to have hunting access. In years past, I lost too much private ground access to houses and pissed off landowners that I did not help to create.
I hunt public ground because I hope I can show my son and daughter good places to hunt when they come to age that will not have a posted sign placed on it in their lifetimes.
Just One Dutchman's Opinion,
Gar-Shooter
My family has been in Pennsylvania for over three hundred years.
01-18-2002, 04:56 PM
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Gar ,we might not agree on every issue ,but I got you out of your cacoon and you posted. Long time no hear.Id hunt with you anytime,but sorry Im a disabled crossbow hunter. Hope that dont matter?
01-18-2002, 06:41 PM
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Gar, you said
"What I also liked about Ohio was that you could hunt on your primary hunting license without buying special tags..."
In Ohio a deer tag has cost $20 per deer for residents for about 10+ years. Before that it was $15 forever.
In fact, if an Ohio resident kills 2 deer and 3 turkeys like the law allows in some parts of the state...it costs a RESIDENT $115. That's what I don't like about Ohio. The residents get porked on license prices.
By the way, I've hunted public land around the Muskingum Watershed for 3+ years. There's 3 of us that go and we always see deer. One of my friends (a butcher) killed a huge 9pt there this year. They're even talking about a 3 or 4 deer limit in that area next year to cut the number of deer down. I'm just wondering if you hunted there a long time ago.
GOOD HUNTING!!!
"What I also liked about Ohio was that you could hunt on your primary hunting license without buying special tags..."
In Ohio a deer tag has cost $20 per deer for residents for about 10+ years. Before that it was $15 forever.
In fact, if an Ohio resident kills 2 deer and 3 turkeys like the law allows in some parts of the state...it costs a RESIDENT $115. That's what I don't like about Ohio. The residents get porked on license prices.
By the way, I've hunted public land around the Muskingum Watershed for 3+ years. There's 3 of us that go and we always see deer. One of my friends (a butcher) killed a huge 9pt there this year. They're even talking about a 3 or 4 deer limit in that area next year to cut the number of deer down. I'm just wondering if you hunted there a long time ago.
GOOD HUNTING!!!
01-18-2002, 07:54 PM
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I live in Delaware, hunt Delaware,hunt PA every year, some years hunt W.Va. for deer and turkey, deer hunt in N.H. , Bear hunt in N.H. and Bear hunt in Maine, Would like to try Adirondacks and also North Carolina sometime..