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Well said Beachhunter.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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Beachhunter, it is not just an opinion! And anyone who hunts in PA knows it!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Your right wimp. Not all, but a good many of the hunters are exactly what you just described. WE as the hunters have to change the mindset of ourselves and the other's around us. For some this is all they know. This is how they're parents and grandparents hunt, so how would they know any different. Tradition is a wonderful thing, but with new times and more knowledge old tradition have to change and new ones made. My family has the same routine every year. Nothing illegal. But same stands, same time, same camp, and same small bucks every year. Although I love to spend the time with them. I really enjoy spending more time scouting and trying to find the deer than I do hunting them.

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Wimp way to go man well said. YOu only forgot one thing as they shoot at any buck that is running he shoots with out ever knowing where that bullet flys after he or she misses.

It may be like this but I also wouldn't miss it for the world. Nothing like opening day.

brian

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Ya know wimp, I think you forgot the all important camp weekend leadin up to opening day... Arrive at camp friday after thanksgiving with 8.2 cases of beer and 2 boxes of cigars per man. The poker game starts then and no one washes anything till at least next Wednesday. Bust up the local tavern Saturday night and start a brawl there again watchin the Steeler game on Sunday. After the game sight in the old thutty thutty on the spike lickin the salt block behind camp. He'll keep till the morning! Hunt Monday till 7:30 AM and then whine the rest of the week that you gotta hunt a week to see 1 or 2 deer. And somewhere in there you find the time to make a Gary Alt Voodoo Doll to stick some pins in.

AHHHH TRADITION!!!!!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Edited by - btbowhunter on 01/18/2002 08:15:03

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I can hear the applause. Well said.

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You spoke the God's honest truth Wimp. It's like that here in NY too. After getting shot in the back with a 12 guage slug on opening day this year, it made me stop and take a really good look at what's going on. I think a lot of the younger guys today see too many outdoor shows on TV, making it look like it's so easy to bag a big one. They get frustrated too easy and tend to shoot it up too much if you ask me. No one seems to want to be patient and put the time in to hunt anymore. I'm not saying it was all that much better in the years before, but it seems like it was, most likely because there were a lot less hunters out there. I have to be honest and say that I think that for every good, safe, ethical and law abiding hunter, there are 10 that can easily be considered slobs. I'm probably going to get blasted on this, but it's time we all woke up to reality. Only we can do something about it. We have to be the teachers and do a better job of teaching.

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Crowpecker
I sure hope they don't outnumber us 10 to 1 but my perspective hasn't been adjusted by a slug! Thank God you weren't more seriously hurt. There are way too many out there that are exactly as we described here. I would also venture to say that that's the type most likely to resist changes to our deer management for their own selfish reasons. Before I start a firestorm.... That was not meant to include the people on this board that really care about the resource but may happen to disagree with myself and others on deer managemnent. The type described above doesn't care about the deer herd more than 1 or 2 days a year. I don't believe that 99% of those reading this fall under that category.

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Thanks for the support guys and gal.
I'm just telling it like it is. I like to shoot deer with a rifle too, but the way rifle season is, I try pretty hard to tag out in archery season.
Rather than people crying about being badmouthed and getting a bad reputaion, try to work to change it. I doubt many of the hunters described above come to these boards, but some do. If we can all just try to slowly turn the tide and help people to see things, then ALL hunters can benefit. Sometimes the truth hurts, and don't look good, but that's when you have change attitudes and actions to make it better.

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I totally agree with Wimp's post. I've seen the same type of hunting on public lands here in Delaware. I hunted Blackbird west of Clayton this shot gun season and had a very small button buck walk by me. I watched him walk to the bean feild. When he exited the woods a hunter fired the little guy took off down the wood line and another hunter fired than another and so on. Finally he fell after having more ammo fired at him then the Alqeda terrorist group. It made me wonder who would be proud to check in such a small deer. Are there actual hunters that take pride in shooting such small deer.