PGC SAYS DEER ARE STARVING
#81
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George,that's the whole point.Deer shouldn't have to dig for food.They're browsers andthey'll do fine if there's adequate high quality browse.If there isn't enough browse and deer are starving,they've exceeded the carrying capacity and more need to be shot.Why don't people get that?We can't manage deer based on mild winters and good mast crops.Deer need freakin browse and we lack that in many areas do to decades of too dam many deer.
George,that's the whole point.Deer shouldn't have to dig for food.They're browsers andthey'll do fine if there's adequate high quality browse.If there isn't enough browse and deer are starving,they've exceeded the carrying capacity and more need to be shot.Why don't people get that?We can't manage deer based on mild winters and good mast crops.Deer need freakin browse and we lack that in many areas do to decades of too dam many deer.

#82
Nontypical Buck
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From: Slower Lower Delaware 1st State
A logical conclusion would be,Deer will starve every year if the snow fall is heavy enough.That's life in the wild in ANY state not just PA.
Similar holds true in shallow lakes that experiance a hard freeze and then snow on top for extended periods.Depletes light,oxygen etc...= above average fish kill.
That's life in the water.So where do we go now??
Similar holds true in shallow lakes that experiance a hard freeze and then snow on top for extended periods.Depletes light,oxygen etc...= above average fish kill.
That's life in the water.So where do we go now??
#83
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Why can't the deer move right now?I saw tracks all over the place on my way to work this morning.I realize deer eat acorns and sometimes dig through the snow to get to them.That isn't the point.The point is that during winter,a deer's primary diet should be browse.You need sufficient,high quality browse to sustain healthy deer through the winter.We can't rely on a mild winter and we can't rely on mast crops that don't produce every year.We need to manage deer based on the amount of available browse.Less browse will mean less deer.Too many deer means less browse and the cycle will continue with less deer.If deer are starving during the winter do to poor food sources,the anser is to kill more until the habitat recovers.Adding more deerfor the habitat to support makes no sense.Therefore,managing the deer herd based on the deer's health makes complete sense.If this winter keeps going theway it's going,fawn recruitment will definately be impacted negatively in areas of poor habitat.I'm glad I did my part and killed several doe this year.
#84
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Deer will struggle to move but in a snow like we are having now (12 -16 inches) they can move to browse -- if browse exist.
Same as how they'll move to do anything. If they can't move they are stuck. Not just from browse but from digging in grazing areas also.
They need, easier to reach, browse.
Well explain how they are goanna browse when they can't move.
They need, easier to reach, browse.
#85
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From: Slower Lower Delaware 1st State
hope you got to red article and pictures of the deer that the pgc says .are starving and must go..
this is at the federal gov. campus in broughton,pa. near pittsburgh..
pgc says there are 200 deer on this private property and they must be SHOT!!
this is at the federal gov. campus in broughton,pa. near pittsburgh..
pgc says there are 200 deer on this private property and they must be SHOT!!
Where is the article about these deer that need to be shot and are apparently starving.Where's the topic starter???
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Where is the article about these deer that need to be shot and are apparently starving.Where's the topic starter???
hope you got to red article and pictures of the deer that the pgc says .are starving and must go..
this is at the federal gov. campus in broughton,pa. near pittsburgh..
pgc says there are 200 deer on this private property and they must be SHOT!!
this is at the federal gov. campus in broughton,pa. near pittsburgh..
pgc says there are 200 deer on this private property and they must be SHOT!!
Where is the article about these deer that need to be shot and are apparently starving.Where's the topic starter???
next, the article was on page 3 or 4 that someone put on ,i guess you did not read that..
next, my lawyer told me i cannot put pictures on here, you should know copyright..i offered to mail the picture to btbowhunter,he declined..
i can mail it to you but it seems, you only want prove that sproul does not have it..
whatever, keep bashing people here and use your buddies to help..
what a moderator!!

#88
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From: Slower Lower Delaware 1st State
I will appologize for 1 thing only and then Ban myself later.
The article was posted on page 5 by someone else.You Sir just had to add your own little spin to an otherwise good explanation as to why these animals needed culling.
I read nothing in that article that led me to believe the above statement.
For that maybe you should be
Shame on you
The article was posted on page 5 by someone else.You Sir just had to add your own little spin to an otherwise good explanation as to why these animals needed culling.
pgc will not be happy until no deer are left anywhere, now, they are after private land owners to KILL THEM STARVING DEER OFF..
For that maybe you should be
Shame on you


