A Crack in the "Rock?"
02-01-2007, 07:29 AM
#132
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
it shows disagreement between 30 to 40 % of Penn Fed members with the way PennFed supports the PGC's mismanaged deer program.
02-01-2007, 07:45 AM
#133
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
It's obvious to all but blind followers that there is a deep schism within the ranks of Penn Fed, and that they may not be addressing the desires and opinions of a very significant proportion of their members. The proof lies in the fact that the organization has lost thousands of members and many sportsmen's clubs.
A past officers public comments (membership chairman) attest to that and those comments were supported by the President (T.O.) and the legislative laison at that time. (Possibly even today, who knows?) Would you like me to post their supportive comments?
And who knows, that 30 to 40 % figure may be growing. It will be interesting to see if the organization will poll their members to affirm an accurate figure in this perilous slide.
A past officers public comments (membership chairman) attest to that and those comments were supported by the President (T.O.) and the legislative laison at that time. (Possibly even today, who knows?) Would you like me to post their supportive comments?
And who knows, that 30 to 40 % figure may be growing. It will be interesting to see if the organization will poll their members to affirm an accurate figure in this perilous slide.
02-01-2007, 07:59 AM
#134
Nontypical Buck
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
I think it's pretty safe to say that 30-40 percent of hunters wouldn't support any type of herd reductions so those numbers don't surprise me.It's also safe to say that 30-40 percent of the hunters don't understand the relationship deer have with the habitat.
02-01-2007, 08:06 AM
#135
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
CHorse, with all due respect, do you not think the post stating that those numbers also represent 60 to 70 percent support is valid?
After all, it was a percentage offered and not stated as a factual census.
I've heard the USP, UBP and PFSC all are experiencing a drop in membership and to try to define it as a house on fire for any of them seems -- wishful, or negativethinking -- depending on one's views.
Dunno, I guess the expiration dates on memberships will tell the story eventually.
After all, it was a percentage offered and not stated as a factual census.
I've heard the USP, UBP and PFSC all are experiencing a drop in membership and to try to define it as a house on fire for any of them seems -- wishful, or negativethinking -- depending on one's views.
Dunno, I guess the expiration dates on memberships will tell the story eventually.
02-01-2007, 08:47 AM
#136
Nontypical Buck
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
The 60-70% tells me the glass is near 3/4 full of Beer
That's a positive outlook.Of course the 60-70% could be closer to 75-80% depending on who posts the numbers.
Bottom Line is - my guesstimate would be that 60-70% satifaction is all any F&G operation might expect.There are whiners in every crowd that you will never satisfy.
That's a positive outlook.Of course the 60-70% could be closer to 75-80% depending on who posts the numbers.Bottom Line is - my guesstimate would be that 60-70% satifaction is all any F&G operation might expect.There are whiners in every crowd that you will never satisfy.
02-01-2007, 09:14 AM
#137
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
"DougE"-dce,
"I think it's pretty safe to say that 30-40 percent of hunters wouldn't support any type of herd reductions so those numbers don't surprise me.It's also safe to say that 30-40 percent of the hunters don't understand the relationship deer have with the habitat."
Pure speculation on your part isn't it?
By the way Doug, who was it at the PGC that gave you that information about not having any report cards from me in the past few years? I'd like to know.
"I think it's pretty safe to say that 30-40 percent of hunters wouldn't support any type of herd reductions so those numbers don't surprise me.It's also safe to say that 30-40 percent of the hunters don't understand the relationship deer have with the habitat."
Pure speculation on your part isn't it?
By the way Doug, who was it at the PGC that gave you that information about not having any report cards from me in the past few years? I'd like to know.
02-01-2007, 10:40 AM
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RE: A Crack in the "Rock?"
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No more than your presumption that 30-40% dissatisfaction indicates a "crack in the Rock".
Pure speculation on your part isn't it?
And that significant percentage as well as the fact that Penn Fed is hemoraging members and clubs is a well known state of affairs.
Doug, I didn't think you'd want to identify that PGC source of info concerning my report cards. It would prove to be a very interesting matter should you have told the truth. As it is, it's just anotherfigment of your vivid imagination; much like your habitat and Game Land rants.
Your credibility is rapidly headed south.