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muzzyman88 12-19-2006 06:19 PM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
I can't believe I'm saying this....but I actually agree to a point with eagle chickie here. Anyone know where we can find license sale numbers from more than a year ago? Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't we used to sell somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 million license annually? I'm talking general/military etc, not with archery and all the other stuff added in. And, if the decline hasn't been taking place year after year, why is the game commission concerned about revenue? They raise prices, sell more antlerless tags and still have a financial problem? Hmmmm.

Windwalker7 12-19-2006 06:26 PM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter


ORIGINAL: lead poisoner


ORIGINAL: jf5

Not trying to be a pain here, so don't kill me. I know the tag/license sales are improtant to funding. But with all the complaining here about low deer numbers in PA, I figured some would be happy to see less hunters in their woods. ;)

Addingto the thread topicthough, most NE states are on the same decline as PA on license sales. This whole "no deer= no sales = PGC sucks"is unfounded in my eyes as we in MA are facing the same decline despite record harvests and more trophy bucks than ever. And our deer hunting SUCKS compared to PA, even now!

Younger hunters not getting into the sport has little to do with lack of deer, and more to do with our modern society of instant gratification. If you really are truely concerned about Jr hunters getting into the sport. Its time to volunteer your time and money to hunter safety courses and tutoring young ones on wildlife, shooting, fishing, and hunting.Fishing is a great start, then some target shooting,then small game oruplandbirds, etc. These activites will plant the base for the future hunter IMO.
This is just evidence that the management of game(lack of) is proof by the number of license sales.Less wildlife to hunt, Less tags to be sold.If the game was abundant as it once was before they start pissin with things.Sales would be higher.This is just evidence of the poor game management and nothing has been improved and only made worse. Thats what the point of the sales was about.To show how bad this is getting.
How do you explain the similar trend of declining license sales in virtually every state? Are they all mismanaged?


I'll explain it. When people buy a hunting license they want to hunt something. For that to happen, there has to be somethig to hunt. I'd have to admit that PA still probably has one of the highest populations o f whitetails in the north eastern United States. With that being said, those other states have even less deer to hunt. It is no wonder hunters are hanging it up.

Who wants to pay money to buy a license,to go bird watching? Most hunters in PA don't have honey holes. Most are from the city and hunt public ground. I'd imagine after a few years of getting skunked it might make one feel like calling it quits. Then there are the die hards like us the scout like crazy to get our deer, but even that can get discourging when the sign is just not there.

Like I said in my thread about my crystal ball,our hunting future does not look bright.


Big Country 12-19-2006 06:34 PM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
Lets see if this link works?

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=511&q=159015

A partial cause of the PGC running low on funds might just include a couple of the following.......

As always, ZERO taxpayer dollars.

Gasoline costs......up over 100% in the last 2 years. Was up 300% for a while there.

The PGC deer management plan ain`t perfect, but when you throw nearly 1 million guys/gals with high powered rifles into the mix........there is NO plan that will excel any other way than blind luck.

Couple the high number of hunters with our longstanding PA hunter mentality and you have the proverbial snowballs chance in Heck to get very far.

Of course.......it always has been easier to play quarterback on Monday morning.[&:]

livbucks 12-20-2006 07:10 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 

And I'm doing it legal with the PGC blessings.
Uh, nope.
The GC specifically asks hunters to pass on BB. They cut hunters a break and don't punish you when you do take one, that's all. It is not a blessing but a forgiveness. Purposeful, wanton killing of BB is a waste of the resource, like cutting your crop before it fruits.
We've seen it here a million times. People complain of not seeing racked bucks and in the same breath, brag about killing between 3 and 6 BB every year.
I'm going now to check my inbox for those P&Y buck pictures.

andesman 12-20-2006 07:24 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
PA NEEDS LESS HUNTERS! Beside my house our two 3 acre thickets, every saturday ther were 4 hunters in one an two in the other! That is ridiculous. Games Lands have been decimated. I go to MD. I Hope some quit!

BTBowhunter 12-20-2006 07:33 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 

ORIGINAL: livbucks


And I'm doing it legal with the PGC blessings.
Uh, nope.
The GC specifically asks hunters to pass on BB. They cut hunters a break and don't punish you when you do take one, that's all. It is not a blessing but a forgiveness. Purposeful, wanton killing of BB is a waste of the resource, like cutting your crop before it fruits.
We've seen it here a million times. People complain of not seeing racked bucks and in the same breath, brag about killing between 3 and 6 BB every year.
I'm going now to check my inbox for those P&Y buck pictures.
Greg,

I'm becoming more and more convinced that you won't see those pics simply because they don't exist. I'm beginning to think that the 5 BB kills, the assault by the WCO and the kids deer etc are imaginary as well. I think what we have here is aposter who really doesnt stand for much of anything except stirring the pot. Some folks simply like to hear the sound of their own voice or see their name on a screen. Some seem to get some sick satisfaction by getting others riled up. Look back through all the posts and see if you don't agree.

livbucks 12-20-2006 08:50 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
I just did Bob, and I now do.

eagle chickie 12-20-2006 09:28 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
I'll let you two share a room fora bit then stand back and watch you guys eat crow!
I believe that what we have here Greg is a wannabe trophy hunter whom by the looks of the pics on his link sure isn't impressing me with the his results.Of "My best 4" sets of antlers the smallest is larger than the biggest he has on that shed wall on the link, and all were killed right here inPa with my bow.
The trouble with trying to converse with someone on the web is you really don't know what that person has accomplished....some wannabes let their egostell them that they are the best of the lot and all others must then fall in somewhere lower on the sucess pole.........

BTBowhunter 12-20-2006 09:40 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
Since that best buck on the wall on that link is 193", you must have some collection! BTW, that particular buck is not mine. I don'tneed tomake those type of claims. Oh yeah, where did you say those pics were? I cant wait to see 4 bucks better than 193" all together. I must say, I am impressed:eek:

livbucks 12-20-2006 09:51 AM

RE: PA license sales 2006 The sky isn't falling after all!
 
I was going to say she is confused, but sometimes it's better to just let 'em go. I've been around deer hunting long enough to know. My little brother killed a monster years ago, the biggest, heaviest rack I have ever seen in PA. Had it been killed with a bow (which it wasn't) it would have missed P&Y (after deductions as a typical) by one inch.
Anyone who has (undetermined "bunch") of legitimate, minimum net scoring P&Y eligible whitetails from PA to their name would be a celebrity in the hunting fraternity (sorority if you will also).
Maybe EC should have her own show!


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