RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

LP here is the page I was looking at on their website

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=458&q=167107

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

No, I don't give blindly to any organization regardless who it happens to be.

Perhaps myself and others would contribute if someone could provide somestatisticsas to how effecient or ineffecient the PGC is compared with all of the other states. Such as budget and manpower totals, keep in mind in the PGC's case this would also have to inculde the PFBC numbers as well, since PA is the one and only state that has seperate Game and Fish agencies. Hunter Satisfaction indexes would be nice to have too, but I suspect very few of them are all that current.

Anyone happen to have all of that information at your fingertips?

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

25 yrs. ago I wouldhave said yes, but when they started calculating the deer harvest to make it look like the herd was bigger than it was, they said almost half the hunters didn't send in their deer kill cards that made it look like the hunters were outlaws, this was a big lie, about the same time they stopped cutting trees for habitat improvement on game lands.
NOW I SAY NO, I DON'T TRUST ANYTHING THEY COME UP WITH !!!

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

Where I live, the authorities ask us not to donate money to panhandlers since it just facilitates their crack and/or alchohol addictions.
In the same vein, and sinceI agree with lost horn's assessment of the situation, I wouldn't give them a dime.
BTW, in the pastI spent plenty of my own time and money volunteering on one of their committees.

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

The big players who donate really big money to the agency and get recognition from it are groups such as Audobon.

Whenever any organization lays down 6 and 7 figure donation$ they most certainly expect $omething in return.

If for one minute you think that your tiny ($)donation will insure greater future hunting opportunities and better huntingconditions you are sadly mistaken. The agency will always cave to the greater contributer.

Just out of curiosity, whoare the majorcontributors to the PGC's "Wildlife For Everyone Endowment Fund" established by Russ Schleiden and managed by their new Executive Director (Former PGC Executive Director) Vern Ross whodrove the PGC into near bankruptcy, and how much have they contributed?

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

Keep it on Topic without the flaming insults or its Gone

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

AJ52. What didn't you find on topic? The Endowment fund does deal with donations and Vern Ross did certainly help to put the agency in the poor condition that it now is in. in fact, he was a key contributor to it's decline of that there can be no doubt.

RE: Anyone ever donate time or money to the PGC?
 

My comment was not directed at your specific post.

But - please keep the spirit of the topic in mind when posting.These PA topics are getting way out of hand.I get tired of deleting posts - but - I will do it if it gets crazy with insults,flaming and off topic.