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longislandhunter 11-29-2006 06:32 PM

NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
Is it illegal to bait deer in NY with feed products. If so then why do the local pro shops sell products such as cmere deer (The product endorsed by Hank Parker) as well as other food baiting products. I know that salt is illegal but what about food?

Thanks


stretchhunts 11-29-2006 07:06 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
yes it is illegal to feed deer with baits. No it is not illegal to sell it and you can use food plots to bait I mean feed deer.

Charlie P 11-29-2006 07:11 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
I wonder the same thing every time I walk into Gander Mountain and Dick's.

djgj200 11-30-2006 01:15 AM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
i like how the forum automatically filters out the name of a legitimate name. hahahaha.

youthpastorjon 12-06-2006 12:10 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
You get caught baiting in ny that will be that last time you hunt. The DEC is pretty harsh when it comes to baiting. I actually had this conversation with a local DEC official. Even if you find someone else's bait pile and hunt over it, you will charged.

uncballers45 12-06-2006 01:43 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
what about buying corn and putting it out? is that still considered baiting?

Avalanche 12-06-2006 02:05 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 

ORIGINAL: uncballers45

what about buying corn and putting it out? is that still considered baiting?
Yes

Flairball 12-06-2006 02:10 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
What kind of a question is that? :eek:Hmmm,....What's the point of putting out corn? If you're planning to hunt over it, it's bait. If you need to think of waysto justify what you're doing, and ways to convince the wardens that you're not baiting then you probably are.

If you don't know what baiting is either read the book (comes with the license)that explains all the rules, or call the NY DEC and ask.



No Mercy 12-06-2006 04:02 PM

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You could put out the corn, But you can't hunt around it

Charlie P 12-06-2006 05:19 PM

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You get caught baiting in ny that will be that last time you hunt.
LOl. I turned in a guy witha feeder and they warned him.


You could put out the corn, But you can't hunt around it
They made it illegal even to feed deer a couple years ago didn't they?

SteveBNy 12-06-2006 05:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: No Mercy

You could put out the corn, But you can't hunt around it
Wrong here - since CWD showed up, it has been illegal to supplementary feed.

Steve

SteveBNy 12-06-2006 05:24 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
Another point - these questions are all answered very clearly in the regulations book EVERY hunter receives each year with their licence.

It is your duty and responsibility to know these things and be aware of changes.

But of course we all knew that.:D

Steve

shedhead 12-06-2006 08:47 PM

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Unfortunately baiting runs rampid on Long Island. DEC has their hands full trying to catch the cheaters and it hurts all ethical hunters. I hate baiters!!

Avalanche 12-07-2006 05:03 AM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
I know of a guy that showed up at a local coffee house showing pictures from his game cam of a nice 8 point, only problem was that you could see the automatic feeder hanging overhead. A week later DEC showed up at his farm and found the feeder. I don't know if they charged him, but they did take his feeder.
Be careful of who you show your pictures to if you are using bait to attract deer to your camera.

SteveBNy 12-07-2006 05:30 AM

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Be careful of who you show your pictures to if you are using bait to attract deer to your camera.
OR

Obey the law and don't bait or feed!!

Steve

Avalanche 12-07-2006 07:46 AM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 

ORIGINAL: SteveBNy


Be careful of who you show your pictures to if you are using bait to attract deer to your camera.
OR

Obey the law and don't bait or feed!!

Steve
I assumed that went without saying :)

mike_wny 12-07-2006 07:46 AM

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What about food plots?

Avalanche 12-07-2006 07:48 AM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 

ORIGINAL: mike_wny

What about food plots?
Food Plots are legal, I have several and thats where I set my cameras up.
Best fall plot is Brassica's, they have hammered mine:)

nys-buckstalker 12-07-2006 10:58 AM

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O.K. now,what about this.A local friend of mine feeds his cows corn or silage in outdoor troughs,Always had a bunch of turkeys show up after cows get done feeding.Didn't mind them,has a few nice photos of them.Just after the season started had a doe and a couple fawns showing up.Then a few more deer showed up.Well last weekend siad he feed the cows and the deer showed up.There was a couple bucks in the group.My friend finally had enough,and went out to scare them off and shot one of the bucks.Well guess what just after he shot the local encon officer showed up,claimed he was hunting over bait and took his deer and gun away.Goes to court tonight at 7:00 to answer to charges.Now here is my question? When was it a bait pile and when was it feed for his cows.The troughs have been there for at least 10 years and this is the 1st time deer have been a problem.

Avalanche 12-07-2006 11:03 AM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 

ORIGINAL: nys-buckstalker

O.K. now,what about this.A local friend of mine feeds his cows corn or silage in outdoor troughs,Always had a bunch of turkeys show up after cows get done feeding.Didn't mind them,has a few nice photos of them.Just after the season started had a doe and a couple fawns showing up.Then a few more deer showed up.Well last weekend siad he feed the cows and the deer showed up.There was a couple bucks in the group.My friend finally had enough,and went out to scare them off and shot one of the bucks.Well guess what just after he shot the local encon officer showed up,claimed he was hunting over bait and took his deer and gun away.Goes to court tonight at 7:00 to answer to charges.Now here is my question? When was it a bait pile and when was it feed for his cows.The troughs have been there for at least 10 years and this is the 1st time deer have been a problem.
IMHO When he shot the buck it became bait, as the buck would not have been there if not for the corn that the farmer put out. Just scareing the deer away would have been fine, but when he shot one it changes.

SteveBNy 12-07-2006 05:54 PM

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What Avalanche said.

Steve

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-07-2006 05:56 PM

RE: NY Baiting legal, or illegal?
 
If NY is like PA which I believe it is, those products are not illegal in the offseason. They sell many more products in Gander Mountain that are not legal in the PA woods during the season like electronic deer calls for another instance. They are not illegal to sell them.

Charlie P 12-07-2006 06:16 PM

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Rob, You can not feed wild animals at all in NY, no matter what time of year it is.


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