RE: Up and Down day...and the world's smallest 11 pointer...Long!
 

Touche'!
Interesting point there.
I don't care to get combative about this, really.
What percentage are 3 points or less?
I bet the number is greater than 60%.
I was thinking of AR of 4 points or more on a side.
That's the way it is where I hunt in PA.
Sorry if I goofed on that comparison if the AR in NY is 3 points.

RE: Up and Down day...and the world's smallest 11 pointer...Long!
 

Just as an aside, I appreciate the attempt to move it to a new thread.

Inmy region, and even more specifically my WMU has roughly 50% of 1.5 yo bucks with 6-8 points. Here the only way AR would work biologically is via width, which this guy would not have met. The state's central DEC biologist quoted that to me when I was writing my feature article on A/R in NY. The basic 3 per side rule could work in areas that they are being implemented in now for advancing the 80% of the1.5 age class to 2.5 yo. However, that's beyond the scope in my part of the state where it would not work, plus you got the whole ethics and trophy questions that leave much more discussion to be held before making a state-wide decision.

Now- I found the kid's deer...a button buck as I thought it was whenI saw it walking towards his stand as he shot. It's his first deer, so I have no qualms about it being a bb whatsoever. While the meat is no good, it is aconsolation that I found it. I'll take pics for him, and probablytake off the Buttons after moving it from the woodlot. It circled away from us incidentally, not back. I just happened to take a different walk in than normal, and there he was in a drainage ditch of the corn field.

RE: Up and Down day...and the world's smallest 11 pointer...Long!
 

Anytime AR comes up in a thread, you run the risk of a highjacking.:D
In PA, Where the 3 point AR won't work, we have 4 point AR. That's where I goofed up. I'm still wondering what percentage of 1.5 year old bucks have 3 points or less. In my area I believe it isin excess of80%, if my memory is correct. This fits in with my observations from the last 28 years of hunting. This would leave almost 20% of 1.5 year old bucks that carry 4 or more per side, i.e. your nice 1.5 year old 11 pointer.

Glad you found the BB. I know it's just consolation at this point. A good lesson nonetheless. It is interesting to see the path that a mortally wounded deer takes. Sometimes it is so simple that it embarasses the hunter, that he didn't think of it. I knew a guy that lost a deer that never even travelled out of sight of his stand. It went in a creekbed and bedded under a fallen log. We found it after it was too late.