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padan 01-13-2002 12:10 PM

$5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
It seems that the $20 million plus dollars the PGC already makes a year on licsence sales isn't enough, now they want to impose a $5.00 spring gobbler stamp on top of that. The bad news is that the NWTF is supporting it. I wonder how much in kick backs the NWTF gets for supporting the stamp? The PGC wants to take, take, take, but doesn't want to give, like allowing Sunday hunting. It want be long till you'll have to buy a stamp for each species of game you hunt in PA. Slowly but surely, the PGC is destroying hunting in PA.

PA DropTine 01-13-2002 12:21 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
I wouldn't be so hard on the NWTF.

What would it look like if they said they were against the increase?

They were probably presented with something along the lines of: "We are considering an increase so that we can better manage the birds in PA. Can we count on your support?"

If the NWTF said, "No" ...well, you can imagine how it would look for them.

In my opinion... the NWTF is a good organization that cares about the future of turkey hunting and the young turkey hunters of America.

-DT

As far as a separate stamps... I agree. Enough is enough. Why not increase non-resident stamps? Next thing will be a separate stamp for every fish in our waters.

padan 01-13-2002 12:54 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
DT. I agree that the NWTF is a good organizion, but for them to support a stamp is unacceptable to me as it will only led to further stamps and permits. With all of the money the PGC generates from license sales a year, there has to be enough for turkey management, as well as other game animal management. Like you said, "enough is enough"!! Soon they'll want to impose a stamp to hunt on game lands.

RonM 01-13-2002 02:38 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
How about easing up on the non residents it costs me $101. and that doesn't include bear hunting anymore. That is now $25. extra. We alo pay property taxes on our camp. There were 5 of us this year at camp for deer. and the week prior another member went up with 3 buddies and went bear hunting. That figures about $1,000. vto the state of PA and we didnt drag aanything out of the woods.We bought propane, food,papers , hardware, gasoline each way. and whatever else the camp,rrequired..... so ease up on the non residents

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BTBowhunter 01-13-2002 03:52 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
Notice it's a SPRING turkey stamp? Next it'll be a fall turkey stamp. Then what, a pheasant stamp? Rabbit stamp? Squirrel stamp? Oh wait, the fish commission cant just get by with a trout stamp and an Erie stamp we'll be needin a bass stamp, musky stamp, walleye stamp even a panfish stamp.

<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

buckhunter3 01-13-2002 05:08 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
I agree and have said that it will be just like fishing in Pa a stamp for everything.
I am waiting for the smaller deer units to take place and see if you have to buy a stamp to hunt in a certain area plus your doe permit.I don't think some hunters get the whole picture on what is going on with the new PGC ideas it is revenue now because they know they have to lure out of state hunters for the big buck because the youth of today is not automatically taking up hunting because their father did.They know they are in trouble in years to come so they have to get revenue from some where and what better way then a stamp from every hunter now.Like the trout stamp once it is in law it won't change except in price.How about two turkeys for spring if we have to pay for a stamp.Also is the PGC going to help the turkey population on private or public land I hunt I don't think so.Then why should I have to pay more money to hunt turkey on the same land I have been hunting for years only to hear that the game lands is the one that is being benefited by it.The same with the big buck issue why should I or other hunters I have talked to out hunting be forced to only hunt big bucks when we are just as happy to harvest a buck and still take a big buck now and then.It is for the revenue and maybe sooner or later all hunters when hit in the pocket book will see this.

Buck Magnet 01-13-2002 05:23 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
It is RIDICOULOUS. Let see, I have to buy a Fishing Liscence, trout stamp, and Lake Erie stamp every year. I have to buy a Regular Hunting liscence, a archery stamp, a bear stamp, my doe tag, muzzleloader tag, and now a turkey tag. That is enough money to buy a brand new gun! It is another WRONG thing our Game Commission is trying to do. I have said it before and got some slack for it, but I don't care, I am going to say it again. &quot;Dr&quot; Gary Alt and our whole game commission are greedy greedy people. Look at the prices of tags, then archery, muzzleloader and doe tags have all been increasing in price. Now we are going to have to pay for turkey so our Game Commission can get even more money to mess around with bogus ideas that have a low chance of working. Another thing is buying the antlers of deer that are killed on the road. I think that if you hit a deer with a car you should be able to keep the ENTIRE deer. You shouldn't have to pay 10 dollars for each point on the antlers. RIDICULOUS! God, the Pennsylvania residents on this site should be the Game Commission, we would actually get something done RIGHT!

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

PA DropTine 01-13-2002 06:18 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
No offense, RonM... it's just that we are seeing a &quot;taxation without representation&quot; type of deal here in PA. Every two years we seem to get a giant wedgy.

-DT

ps-It cost me over 120.00 to hunt Md this year... plus everything that goes with that out-of-state hunt.

Florida cost me several hundred when all was said and done.

When you're not a resident... you really don't have much to say about prices. Either we pay them... or we pick another state.

Edited by - PA DropTine on 01/13/2002 19:21:08

Phil Magistro 01-13-2002 07:37 PM

RE: $5.00 PA spring gobbler stamp
 
PA Droptine, you aren't seeing taxation without representation. ANY license increase or new license must be approved by the state legislature. The PGC does not have the power to raise license fees or create new licenses.

Phil


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