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Crazy Horse RVN 09-21-2006 04:47 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 
Those figures are fact. Provided by the Pennsylvania game Commission.

Perhaps you should visit an optomitrist for the "short sightedness" rather than the PGC spin doctors.

missedagain 09-21-2006 06:04 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 
License sales have been going down the last five years. If you go to the PGC website and do a search on licenses there is a report in there with a chart. My buddy had it up the other day.

I think the trend will continue.

Mocha Java 09-21-2006 06:17 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

I am not your personal research assisitant. The declining recruitment of hunters is a problem that is widespread. According to the USSA, we are replacing every 100 dead/aged out hunters with only 69 new hunters nationwide. Thats a loss of 31% yearly. There are literally thousands of references to this problem.

Crawl out from under your rock and look for yourself! If you cared about your sport, you would already have seen this many times over.
You are not my assistant of any kind at all. You also cannot backup your claim.
BTW, following your statistic, I guess that in a little over three years there will be no hunters left.

Mocha Java 09-21-2006 06:23 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 

ORIGINAL: DennyF

Actually, I believe license sales were declining previous to last year and probably had been for some time prior to that. Blaming declining license sales solely on PGC deermanagement, soundskinda short sighted to me.
From the other M.B.:


Just to keep last year's drop in perspective, here are the previous five year's basic hunting license sales. This is only for the basic hunting license and does not include the various stamps, antlerless licenses or the furtaker license sales:

Quote:
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2000…………..1,038,846………………+ 5,531…………………...+ 0.5 %
2001…………..1,047,820………………+ 8,974…………………...+ 0.9 %
2002…………..1,017,154……………- 30,666……………… …...- 2.9 %
2003…………..1,018,248…………… + 1,094…………………...+ 0.1 %
2004…………..1,013,866………………- 4,382…………………...- 0.4 %
2005……………...964,158……………….-49,708…………………..- 4.9 %



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The source of this is also the PGC.

(supplied by Dick Bodenhorn
WCO, Elk County)


Mocha Java 09-21-2006 06:53 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 


The requested article is no longer published.

Dead link

BTBowhunter 09-21-2006 07:31 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 

ORIGINAL: Mocha Java


ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

I am not your personal research assisitant. The declining recruitment of hunters is a problem that is widespread. According to the USSA, we are replacing every 100 dead/aged out hunters with only 69 new hunters nationwide. Thats a loss of 31% yearly. There are literally thousands of references to this problem.

Crawl out from under your rock and look for yourself! If you cared about your sport, you would already have seen this many times over.
You are not my assistant of any kind at all. You also cannot backup your claim.
BTW, following your statistic, I guess that in a little over three years there will be no hunters left.
No, that statistic doesnt say that we will have no hunters left after three years. It says that for every 100 hunters we lose, only 69 new hunters are recruited. That doesnt mean that we lose 31% of all huntersper year!! It means that when 100 hunters hang it up for good, We lose 31 out of our ranks as hunters for good.

DennyF 09-21-2006 07:41 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 

2000…………..1,038,846………………+ 5,531…………………...+ 0.5 %
2001…………..1,047,820………………+ 8,974…………………...+ 0.9 %
2002…………..1,017,154……………- 30,666……………… …...- 2.9 %
2003…………..1,018,248…………… + 1,094…………………...+ 0.1 %
2004…………..1,013,866………………- 4,382…………………...- 0.4 %
2005……………...964,158……………….-49,708…………………..- 4.9 %

2000 license sales increased in almost all categories from 1999. Muzzleloader license sales jumped 30 percent; junior resident combination license sales climbed 21 percent; and senior lifetime combination license sales were up 28 percent. Overall, unit sales increased by 5 percent and revenue increased 3 percent.


General hunting license sales in 2001 were up one percent compared to 2000 sales. Archery and muzzleloader license sales were up one percent and seven percent respectively. Overall, unit sales statewide remain steady at 2.5 million licenses. 2001 license revenues exceeded $35 million.


2002-2003

Resident licenses decreased $1,020,043,or 6.11 percent, while nonresident hunters licenses decreased $576,007 or 8.56 percent.


2003-2004
Resident licenses increased $306,616, or 1.96 percent, while nonresident hunters licenses increased $576,322, or 9.36 percent. I

2004-2005

Nonresident hunters licenses increased $370,896 or 5.51 percent. Antlerless deer licenses decreased by $179,229 or 3.33 percent, while interest income decreased by $350,709 or 20.35 percent. Resident licenses decreased by $1,782
So, my "belief" wasn't far off then. What exactly was I wrong about?





AJ52 09-21-2006 08:16 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 
Why doesn't the data include "antlerless licenses" ???
Shouldn't Antlerless Lic sales be included in the total Lic sales data that has been presented here as going down.

BTBowhunter 09-21-2006 08:32 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 
here is a link showing how poorly we are recuiting our youth into hunting across the USA

http://www.utahwaterfowl.org/youthhuntingreport.pdf#search='youth%20hunter%20re cruitment%20ussa'

This is obviously a large part of PA's declining sales. we are just slightly behind the national average in recruiting our youth but the problem is countrywide.

AJ52 09-21-2006 09:14 PM

RE: PGC License Sales Down
 
Interesting info.Noted that PA was "very restrictive" in its youth hunting requirements.

Suppose that could be a legit cause for lower sales??

This is all a moot issue.From reading previous posts it appears ALL PA Lic sales are yet tallied.So how can PGC Lic sales be down if all sales have not been tallied??

I'm sure its all a conspiracy by the PGC.


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