Pa. "Wilds"
02-01-2006 | 11:31 AM
#51
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RE: Pa. "Wilds"
Some peoplehave their own criteria for judging such things, T.
Many of the rural northcentral economies were already in decline long before the PGC enacted the herd reduction programs. It is now fashionable to blame that decline on fewer deer, if it suits the purposes of those that have long blamed the game commission for anything that suits their goals of condemnation and fostering discontent.
Last year there was a lengthy article in the York Daily Record that claimed the game commission was responsible for the economic woes of Renovo in particular and Clinton Co. in general, due to declining numbers of deer and declining numbers of deer hunters.
They conveniently overlooked the past history of Renovo that includes the major loss of railroad shops and other industrial jobs, over the previous 30years. They even included a graph of the previous five years' worth of deer kills for Clinton County, that oddly enough, indicated deer kills were fairly stable over that period.
As for the claims aboutsome commissioners being more attune to the demands of hunters than others, that is only one part of their mission.
It is not the PA Deer Commission, nor does its sole purpose for being, have anything to do with making hunters happy at the expense of something else it is charged with watching over. The PGC is legally-bound to manage the wildlife of PA in the best interests of everything and everyone: Wildlife, habitat and hunters.
Most understand that, others are bound to rant and rave about other things that suit their purposes to distort the reality of what needs to be done.
Many of the rural northcentral economies were already in decline long before the PGC enacted the herd reduction programs. It is now fashionable to blame that decline on fewer deer, if it suits the purposes of those that have long blamed the game commission for anything that suits their goals of condemnation and fostering discontent.
Last year there was a lengthy article in the York Daily Record that claimed the game commission was responsible for the economic woes of Renovo in particular and Clinton Co. in general, due to declining numbers of deer and declining numbers of deer hunters.
They conveniently overlooked the past history of Renovo that includes the major loss of railroad shops and other industrial jobs, over the previous 30years. They even included a graph of the previous five years' worth of deer kills for Clinton County, that oddly enough, indicated deer kills were fairly stable over that period.
As for the claims aboutsome commissioners being more attune to the demands of hunters than others, that is only one part of their mission.
It is not the PA Deer Commission, nor does its sole purpose for being, have anything to do with making hunters happy at the expense of something else it is charged with watching over. The PGC is legally-bound to manage the wildlife of PA in the best interests of everything and everyone: Wildlife, habitat and hunters.
Most understand that, others are bound to rant and rave about other things that suit their purposes to distort the reality of what needs to be done.
02-01-2006 | 07:23 PM
#52
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RE: Pa. "Wilds"
I say let the people of the rural comunities descide what they want as far as tourism and such, not some city slicker desciding for them. What makes Potter, tioga, great is how rural they are, buerocrats from the city don't always havethe answer, they can sell thier ideas like they are, but let the locals descide what they want. IMO I have no desire to go their during tourism times because I can watch flatlanders act stupid 365 days a year down here where I'm from.
02-01-2006 | 07:50 PM
#53
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RE: Pa. "Wilds"
From what I'm hearing and reading four sox the locals up there aren't too keen on Rendell's idea of turning Potter into a little Poconos.Most live up there for a reaon,they enjoy that way of life.Now they have some city slickers telling them how it's gonna be.Rendell couldn't find his way outta Philly and neither can his two anti hunting spokesmen from the DCNR.
02-09-2006 | 06:19 AM
#54
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From: Forksville Pa
RE: Pa. "Wilds"
http://www.tiogapublishing.com/articles/2006/02/02/free_press-courier/news02.txt
In other business, commissioners heard from Planning Director Jim Weaver on taking some proactive steps to deal with the PA Wilds initiative.
He asked the commissioners to approve, which they did via ordinance, an intergovernmental cooperation agreement that sets up a planning team for the 12 counties Harrisburg has dubbed “the Wilds.”
“We recognized it [the Wilds designation] as a threat,” said Weaver. “We also recognized that if we continued to think of it that way, it would continue to be a threat.”
“I'll be blunt,” Weaver continued. In describing the Wilds, he said it is an effort “to turn north central Pennsylvania into a playground for Philadelphia.”
This intergovernmental agreement, the first of its kind, will help support the work of planning offices and directors, be a conduit for interaction and communication with municipal officials, and identify the Wilds-impacted communities so that they can be helped in responding to “potential increased visitation and development that may result around DCNR investment areas.”
“I think it's a good idea,” said Commissioner Mark Hamilton. “It will give us more of a voice at the state level to deal with local issues the state may not be aware of.”
“I think this is a good group to look out for our interests,” said Vogler.
The PA Wilds planning team wants to help the region take advantage of economic opportunities rising from the Wilds initiative yet keep the rural, small-town, and natural qualities that make the region unique and attractive.
Members will include county planning directors, executive directors of the regional planning and development commissions, Department of Conservation and Natural Resources representatives, tourist promotion agency members, and representatives from local government associations.
The team will be an advisory body. It will have no independent authority to enter into contracts, usurp powers of individual counties, or commit counties to expend funds
He asked the commissioners to approve, which they did via ordinance, an intergovernmental cooperation agreement that sets up a planning team for the 12 counties Harrisburg has dubbed “the Wilds.”
“We recognized it [the Wilds designation] as a threat,” said Weaver. “We also recognized that if we continued to think of it that way, it would continue to be a threat.”
“I'll be blunt,” Weaver continued. In describing the Wilds, he said it is an effort “to turn north central Pennsylvania into a playground for Philadelphia.”
This intergovernmental agreement, the first of its kind, will help support the work of planning offices and directors, be a conduit for interaction and communication with municipal officials, and identify the Wilds-impacted communities so that they can be helped in responding to “potential increased visitation and development that may result around DCNR investment areas.”
“I think it's a good idea,” said Commissioner Mark Hamilton. “It will give us more of a voice at the state level to deal with local issues the state may not be aware of.”
“I think this is a good group to look out for our interests,” said Vogler.
The PA Wilds planning team wants to help the region take advantage of economic opportunities rising from the Wilds initiative yet keep the rural, small-town, and natural qualities that make the region unique and attractive.
Members will include county planning directors, executive directors of the regional planning and development commissions, Department of Conservation and Natural Resources representatives, tourist promotion agency members, and representatives from local government associations.
The team will be an advisory body. It will have no independent authority to enter into contracts, usurp powers of individual counties, or commit counties to expend funds
02-09-2006 | 02:45 PM
#55
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From: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
RE: Pa. "Wilds"
Denny F---If you're going to quote someone, use the whole quote, not just part of it. You stated Krempasky said "We didn't come here to talk about deer management." You let it drop there. My information has the quote as saying "we didn't come here to talk about deer management. Hunting has changed over the past 20 - 30 years. If you look at the outdoor recreational activities- hunting is not one of them."
Let's tell it as it was told----------
Let's tell it as it was told----------
02-09-2006 | 04:30 PM
#56
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RE: Pa. "Wilds"
Hunting isn't one of the featured activities being jabbered about in the PA Wilds deal. And your point is what, that I didn't repeat the guy's entire spiel?
Isn't it already part of the postings here?
He actually didn't go to Potter Co. to talk about hunting. I've figured out that part.
Isn't it already part of the postings here?
He actually didn't go to Potter Co. to talk about hunting. I've figured out that part.
02-12-2006 | 05:09 PM
#57
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From: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
RE: Pa. "Wilds"
Sorry to get you upset---- I just considered the second part of that quote to be the most important part, and shows the true colors of the initiative in regards to the hunter's role in the program.
