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“One of the things this county has is wildflowers, from May to November,” said Jones.

“You could also promote birdwatching, photography, and long-range shooting,” said Jones.

Do any of these activities generate anywhere near the level of revenue , including Pittman-Robertson tax monies , that hunting does ? Do any of them actually pay for their fun little activities at all ? Flower sniffers and bird botherers usually balk at the suggestion of doing that . I'm with Butch , I feel for you too . [&o]

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I work in the state forests all summer long. I'm yet to see a birdwatcher or flower sniffer in the last 5 years. Occasionally I'll run into a hiker or mountain biker. But that's just about it.

Rendell was a big loser in the NC counties. Voters didn't buy into his garbage, but we are getting it shoved down our throats anyway.

This is a sad happening for us.

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Good job PA.I also e-mailed them awhile back.

Butch and Kevin thank-you for your support.Our DCNR or forestry holds the most amount of state land to hunt on.But with their recent comments it seems they don't want to recognize hunting on those lands anymore.
In the last presidential election James Carville from the democratic national committee described PA like this."There's Pittsburg on one end Philly on the other and Alabama inbetween.What he calls Alabama is most of the state but little population.In that so called Alabama is our big woods which used to be our traditional deer hunting.And you're right these areas used to be the hot spots for deer known throughout the country.But Ed Rendell got elected hired his homeboy from Philly to take charge of the forestry.The guy sure doesn't hunt.Our problem right now is that Philly is running our show.Sort of like Clinton did to the western and midwestern states with logging and hunting.City slickers taking charge of habitat,state forests,deer populations,etc.Their goal is to promote hiking,boating,atv riding,bird watching,etc.Bring the yuppies out to the forests.Problem is I never run into any of these people when I'm out there.
On the other hand when the deer hunting was good the woods was loaded with hunters.I'm interested in knowing why him and his boys want to exclude us.The state with a million hunters.But then again I know why,the DCNR is becoming anti hunting plain and simple.

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i agree Rendell sucks.. and i didnt vote for him and i wont vote next time.. but, Lynn Swann???? whats going on.im not to sure what he knows but i cant wait to hear what he has to say. anyone that doesnt know Swann is most likely going to be the (R) going up against Rendell

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I agree, I would like to here more of Swan's plans and proposals, I usually pay attention to what candidate's discuss before I vote, but I have to admit on this one it's Anyone but Rendell IMO.

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Hunters are a decreasing population while other outdoor activities are increasing. It only makes marketing sense. If I owned a business in the area I would want business year around, not just some on/off days when hunting seasons start.

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T, I think the thing that frustrates some hunters is how many birdwatchers ect. have you seen, me none for the most part. The problem is what have they done for conservation around the state that compares with what hunters have done??? Will they start paying for their activities?? IMO I smell a rat in these folks.




Local business owners wanting business all year round for other activities is fine, but as I said above, why ditch hunting??

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Since when is conservation allowing deer numbers so high that the habitat is destroyed. We need to open out eyes to other wildlife besides the ones that we hunt. That is being a conservationalist. Yes, we as hunters have built up a large chunk of land in game lands but a lot of land has also been donated by individual and other conservation organizations, like The Nature Conservancy, that has put up the $ needed to buy the land then turned it over to the GC. Hunters need to recognize we are stewards of the land not farmers of deer.

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Very true Todd but the guy's response was irresponsible and pompous.Fortunately the guys from DCNR that I know are genuinely concerned about the habitat and the deer and they're trying to do the right thing.

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I said nothing about deer numbers, my question is so why still exclude hunters in their little plan?? I'd be fine sharing the land and I still believe we were always better stewarts of the land especially money wise.