Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
12-01-2005, 09:39 PM
#31
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 22
RE: Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
My point was that geneitics has a very large part of antler growth. And for the people who said about mature bucks of 4 and 5yrs of age.You are correct on growth for them. But without them mature bucks you are not goanna see an increase in antler growth in the years to come.
Those deer have less of a chance now for survival than they did before the restriction came out. Average life of a buck in the wild before restriction was 3 1/2 yrs I am saying it is now goanna be 2 1/2. You got all these new extended seasons that is wipeing the deer heards out.
The people who hunted for the meat didn't care about the size of antlers.Now they have to shoot a bigger buck then before. That leads to the average life span being lowered. You got75% morehunters in the woods looking for higher than restrictions buck than they actually want to.I say 75% of hunters are meat hunters not trophy hunters.
I have to say this.There is something going on here that don't add up.
Why would they raise the restriction of antlers to take more mature bucks out that would have a chance to reach 3 or 4 yrs of age along with wipeing the doe population out at the same time. Maybe it's all part of a future plan for the gun owners of this free country.
Those deer have less of a chance now for survival than they did before the restriction came out. Average life of a buck in the wild before restriction was 3 1/2 yrs I am saying it is now goanna be 2 1/2. You got all these new extended seasons that is wipeing the deer heards out.
The people who hunted for the meat didn't care about the size of antlers.Now they have to shoot a bigger buck then before. That leads to the average life span being lowered. You got75% morehunters in the woods looking for higher than restrictions buck than they actually want to.I say 75% of hunters are meat hunters not trophy hunters.
I have to say this.There is something going on here that don't add up.
Why would they raise the restriction of antlers to take more mature bucks out that would have a chance to reach 3 or 4 yrs of age along with wipeing the doe population out at the same time. Maybe it's all part of a future plan for the gun owners of this free country.
12-02-2005, 09:13 AM
#34
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 159
RE: Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
NO NO FELLOWS...the "PGC" said there would be BIG MASSIVE BUCKS that were 2 1/2, 3 1/2 and 4 !/2 years old and that the racks would be so big we'd forget about those spikes and fours and 6's and 8's....NOW you all be good little boys and listen to those biologists that are in touch with the hunters,,,they are there now, go find them...and if by chance you see a single doe-kill her also-these big old mature bucks reproduce hermaphrodritically, on their own--they are that strong....OH yeah while your looking for those mature bucks, if you see any land that NOT "POSTED" remind the landowner to quickly get those signs up...the "PGC" has do much to do, you watch your own land now...HAVE WE BEEN BAMBOZZLED or WHAT...these are sorry times..how are these bucks going to reproduce, the lowest ever amount of does live here now, the insurance companies and the timber co's would surely like to thank the PGC for their support..the hunters, well--who really cares anyway, we are all so stupid we keep buying all their licenses and listening to their propoganda!!
12-02-2005, 04:32 PM
#37
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 8,167
RE: Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
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This is a Code RED Nonsensical Rant Alert!!!
Get out your tin foil hats and strap 'em up, boys.
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This is a Code RED Nonsensical Rant Alert!!!
Get out your tin foil hats and strap 'em up, boys.
And I know your land better than you deer hunter.
Since you city boys still have deer keep running your mouths .When the rest of your land has houses built on them & you have to join the real world and hunt deer in the woods .You too will find they are not there any more.
I hope the hell you are happy to looking at cucumber roots & neotropical birds cause thats what were in for.
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
#39
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Indiana PA USA
Posts: 3,656
RE: Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
Well boys, bigger bucks in PA? Yep, ask any taxidermist. Bigger racks for the deers age? Yep. I am seeing yearling bucks with spikes, not just buttons any more. Need more proof. Here is a buck that my best friend shot this morning. 10 points, 20" outside spread........ aged at 2-1/2 years old. I'd say that is pretty impressive for ANYWHERE.
12-03-2005, 08:56 PM
#40
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: manassas va USA
Posts: 614
RE: Bigger Bucks in Pa., where?
I hunt northern centre/southern clinton co's and the herd there in my opinion is in a sorry state of offairs.! My family and I built enclosed,,heated treestands years & years ago so we could sit all day everyday,,we have shooting lanes from he!!,,some 300 yds long,,,we logged in over 60 hours this past week in the stands individually and we didnt see squat! My son missed a 6pt. monday morning(fogged lifted and i had just enough time to open the window ,,jam the gun out,,and he took the shot) that was the only deer i saw the rest of the week! My other family members saw a few does here & there on the other side of the mountain but the #'s were under 10 deer for the week. Our group did kill 2 bucks,,a 7pt 20"wide and a 9pt 19" wide,,,great bucks no doubt,,,but not one fawn seen all week. I dont care what anyone says,,you can have all the genetics in the world,,but if you have no does,,you have no fawns,,no fawns means no booner bucks.In closing i guess i'll admit that AR is working for now but HR is going to crush the whole plan