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jerseyhunter 06-08-2005 04:34 AM

Bear Killed in Jersey
 
. http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/sussex...410.xml&coll=1

adams 06-08-2005 06:27 AM

RE: Bear Killed in Jersey
 
Yet one more reason to dismiss the claims of animal activist and to reinstate the NJ bear hunt. If the popultaion is kept unchecked this is going to become the norm until the bear numbers are reduced.

I wonder if Margo Spilotras is one of those bunny huggers who opposes the bear hunt. I can only hope so.

qiqazz 06-08-2005 08:54 AM

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Sorry, but I hope that they don't allow bear hunting for a little while longer. If there are more cases like this, then it will really be tough for anti-hunting morons to say that they are just cute. Has anyone ever heard of a wild boar being friendly? Did you know that a bears closest relative(aside from other bears of course) is the pig? 200-600lbs boars with claws, fangs, and free reign of an entire state. Wow, thats fun. All I've ever heard about boars is that they attack on sight with their tusks which just happen to be groin level(yeouch). Black bears it should be noted are the most aggressive bear(atleast in North America), how many people against hunting them know that they are actually more dangerous than grizzlys? What a great animal to have go through your garbage like a raccoon.

adams 06-08-2005 09:25 AM

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Black bears it should be noted are the most aggressive bear(atleast in North America), how many people against hunting them know that they are actually more dangerous than grizzlys?
I have to disagree whole heartedly with this statement. It's good for argument but holds little merrit.
http://www.bear.org/Black/Articles/H...ack_Bears.html

It remains a fact that wild black bears have killed nearly three dozen people across North America this century
Also: http://www.bearstudy.org/Research/Update_2002-09-21.htm


Standard statistics for each interview:

The baby was the 50th killing by a black bear in the last hundred years across North America.

Most killings were in northern Canada and Alaska where bears have little contact with people. Only two, including this one, were in the eastern US where bears and people mingle the most.

There are about 750,000 black bears in North America with less than one killing per year.

According to the Department of Justices in the US and Canada, about one person in 16,000 commits murder each year. For grizzly bears, about one in 50,000 kills someone. For black bears, it is less than one black bear in a million.

For each person killed by a black bear across North America, there are 13 people killed by snakes, 45 by dogs, 120 by bees, 250 by lightning, and 60,000 homicides.
It's unfortunate that black bears get a bum reputation. Grizzly bears are by their nature more agressive and polar bears are the sole mamal of North America that is above the human on the food chain.

DougMD 06-08-2005 10:01 AM

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Grizzly's are the ones to fear more than black bears for sure.

Western MA Hunter 06-08-2005 11:26 AM

RE: Bear Killed in Jersey
 
I'd like to see that 400lb sow! ;)

JerseyJim 06-08-2005 03:00 PM

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RE: Bear Killed in Jersey (in reply to DougMD)




I'd like to see that 400lb sow! ;)
I'd like to see her too....Just not in my kitchen!!!!!!!!! lol

cardeer 06-08-2005 03:32 PM

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I seen a 500 lb sow at walmart today

qiqazz 06-08-2005 05:33 PM

RE: Bear Killed in Jersey
 
Sorry but kills are no grounds for determining aggressive behavior. Black bears are(regardless of what you have found in one article) more apt to attack than a grizzly, simply because they see you almost as an equal. Grizzlys know that you aren't ****, but could accidentally kill you(being capable of in some cases reaching 1700lbs will do that) while attempting to show you whos boss. Black bears are relentless once deciding to attack, playing dead only makes things worse since they are scavengers, and now see you as a food source(this is true). Black bears can be scared away by threatening behavior on your part; shouting, throwing rocks NEAR not at, and banging things together to scare it away. A grizzly would be encouraged to mess you up if you acted like this. Not aggressiveness simply confidence. Oh and kills compared to lightening? Everyone is susceptable to lightening, what percentage of the American/even global population ever comes within 100 yards of a bear in their life? I'm from northern Vermont, if you live near the ocean then you need to respect sharks- the guy up in saskatchewan needs to watch for brown bears, and all I need to worry about are black bears, moose, and people. Also, many of the guys on this board are *******s and hunt coyotes- did you know that THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A DOCUMENTED CASE OF A HEALTHY COYOTE KILLING A HUMAN IN NORTH AMERICA!!! Considering that they are no different from stray dogs and that people hunt them for 'sport', I hope that coyotes kill record starts going up.

qiqazz 06-08-2005 05:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: qiqazz

Grizzlys know that you aren't ****
I can't believe that... a sight about killing animals for food or(sickeningly) for sport, can't handle the 's' word. Now thats what I call maturity.

Rickmur 06-11-2005 04:27 AM

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many of the guys on this board are *******s
And you seem to be one of them. Go back to your PETA board where you belong.

DougMD 06-11-2005 10:22 AM

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Before you go, check out the wealth of information on the internet about grizzlies being "MORE AGGRESSIVE" than black bears.


Here is one example of many:


Black Bears (Ursus americanus) and
Grizzly Bears (Ursus arctos horribilis)

Yellowstone is home to two populations of bear species -- black bears, which are fairly common, and their rarer cousins, grizzlies. According to recent estimates, there are some 300 to 600 grizzlies within the park.

There are clear physical and behavioral differences between black bears and grizzly bears. Black bears are primarily adapted to use forested areas and their edges and clearings. Although grizzly bears make substantial use of forested areas, they also make much more use of large, non-forested meadows and valleys than do black bears. Black bears have short, curved claws better suited to climbing trees than digging. This enables black bears to forage for certain foods, such as mast, by climbing trees. In contrast, grizzly bears have longer, less curved claws and a larger shoulder muscle mass better suited to digging than climbing. This enables grizzly bears to efficiently forage for foods which must be dug from the soil such as roots, bulbs, corms, and tubers, as well as rodents and their caches.

Behaviorally, black bears are generally much less aggressive than grizzly bears and rely on their ability to climb trees to allow themselves and their cubs to escape predators such as wolves, grizzly bears, or other black bears. Grizzly bears are generally one and one-half to two times larger than black bears of the same sex and age class within the same geographic region. Grizzly bears are also more aggressive than black bears and more likely to rely on their size and aggressiveness to protect themselves and their cubs from predators or other perceived threats.

Did you know? Another behavioral difference between black bears and grizzly bears is the length of time cubs are under their mother's care. Black bear cubs are born in the winter den, spend the summer following birth with their mother, den with her again in the fall, then separate from her early the next summer as yearlings. Grizzly bear cubs spend two and one-half and sometimes three and one-half years under their mother's care before separation.

DougMD 06-11-2005 10:25 AM

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Another of many:

Grizzly Bear
Identifying a Grizzly Bear
Color varies from blond to black. Often medium-to dark-brown legs, hump, and underparts with light-tipped (grizzled) fur on head and upper body.
Average weight is 500 pounds for males and 375 for females. Males may weigh up to 900 pounds.
Height is 3.5 – 4 feet at shoulder when on all fours, and 6 –7 feet when standing upright.
Distinctive shoulder hump is actually muscle mass that enables powerful digging.
A dished-in profile between eyes and end of snout helps distinguish grizzlies from black bears.
Ears are round and proportionately small.
Front claws are 2-4 inches long, slightly curved, and good for digging. Claw marks are usually visible in tracks.

Behavior

Usually more aggressive than black bears.


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