WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
#11
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
I get the CP license anyway which is $140, which includes pretty much everything except for like bear! From my understanding the DRN has no control over how much they get in their budget so I don't get it. If the increased $ were going into the DNR budget I would be all for it but sadly its not so I say leave it alone. They jack up the rates and cut the wardens and fish stocking. f'n politicians! [:@]
#12
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
I understand sags point. But I don't agree with simply raising the fees just because states like IL have. I think at some point the higher NR fees do keep people away, and we end up being dime smart and dollar dumb. If people do stay away, then we have lower revenues for businesses, lower gas tax revenues, etc. All of that to take in some additional fees? Not sure the math adds up in our favor when looking at all of the ramifications.
#14
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
ORIGINAL: kevin1
Enjoy your woods 1sagittarius ,
as your NR prices spiral ever upward you'll surely have fewer NRs to contend with .
Enjoy your woods 1sagittarius ,
as your NR prices spiral ever upward you'll surely have fewer NRs to contend with .
#15
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
I think that all NR tags are out of hand we should be able to share the woods with fellow outdoorsmen, not just only based on their income........i mean there is always gonna be too many hunters out in the woods at hunting time...but never enough when a voting year comes around.....i mean come on how many really hunt outside their home state???
#17
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
ORIGINAL: 1sagittarius
and less NR IL, and MN traffic too?
ORIGINAL: kevin1
Enjoy your woods 1sagittarius ,
as your NR prices spiral ever upward you'll surely have fewer NRs to contend with .
Enjoy your woods 1sagittarius ,
as your NR prices spiral ever upward you'll surely have fewer NRs to contend with .
If your prices get high enough you may not have to worry about NRs ever again . Illinois has already priced me out of their archery season , as though lack of access hadn't already . It won't be too much longer before the only place that I'll be able to afford to hunt is my own backyard . Before you start to think that's a good thing , go back to the post where guy told you about how the small business owners will thank you for robbing them of revenue , it's a fact . On average , a NR spends twice as much on lodging , food , gas , and other incidental expenses as he does on licences and tags , and far more than a res does or ever will . The deep pockets city boy hunters usually stay at a lodge where their owner/guide makes all the money that would otherwise have been pumped into the local economy .
That's what you're wishing for , and you'll get it .
#18
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bureau County Illinois
Posts: 605
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
The problem Kev is that the basic principles of supply and demand are in effect here. Illinois can charge what it charges and not loose a single hunter because of it at this time. I don't know what the MAX they can charge is but as long as they are selling out their NR permits the local business owners really aren't being hurt all that bad, at least not the gas stations and places like that. Now, if outfitters become more the norm than they already are than you will see all the money funnelled through them but the amount of taxes in the area will remain roughly the same.
I am sure there is a point that they can hit, say $1000 a tag or something crazy like that, that would make it impossible to sell out all of their out of state permits but until they hit that point the state will see no loss of income.
As far as Illinois is concerend the proposal for $25 tags for NR's to shoot does during archery season is probably going to pass. That is downright affordable but I doubt many NR's will take advantage of it since not many would want to make the trip to "just" harvest a doe.
I am sure there is a point that they can hit, say $1000 a tag or something crazy like that, that would make it impossible to sell out all of their out of state permits but until they hit that point the state will see no loss of income.
As far as Illinois is concerend the proposal for $25 tags for NR's to shoot does during archery season is probably going to pass. That is downright affordable but I doubt many NR's will take advantage of it since not many would want to make the trip to "just" harvest a doe.
#19
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
ORIGINAL: Spatrat
Konk, Where did you get the assumption that licensing fees go into general fund revenues? I am a financial manager for a county agency and we use fund accounting just like the state. Generally speaking revenues generated in a particular fund , such as the DNR, stay in that fund. It makes no sense to put those revenues in the general fund.
Konk, Where did you get the assumption that licensing fees go into general fund revenues? I am a financial manager for a county agency and we use fund accounting just like the state. Generally speaking revenues generated in a particular fund , such as the DNR, stay in that fund. It makes no sense to put those revenues in the general fund.
#20
RE: WI Non-resident Deer Licenses Too Cheap!
The problem with your theory IL Rancher is your outfitter community .
Sooner or later they will grease their way into getting blocks of NR tags , assuming that they haven't already , and that's less tags to be had . As goes supply so goes demand . The prices will continue to spiral upward until the rank and file NR won't be able to afford tags there , then the outfitters and leasing agents will descend on the remaining tags as well until there are none except theirs .
I truly hope that you or your family has land to hunt where you are , it isn't just NRs that will be affected . Look at what's been going on out West if you don't believe me . It will only get worse .
Sooner or later they will grease their way into getting blocks of NR tags , assuming that they haven't already , and that's less tags to be had . As goes supply so goes demand . The prices will continue to spiral upward until the rank and file NR won't be able to afford tags there , then the outfitters and leasing agents will descend on the remaining tags as well until there are none except theirs .
I truly hope that you or your family has land to hunt where you are , it isn't just NRs that will be affected . Look at what's been going on out West if you don't believe me . It will only get worse .