RE: CWD total to 40 deer, 2.57% Infection rate.
 

sag...Again, you are 100% right, my opinion is just a guess, because I don't know what is really going on....just like the WDNR !!!!! I think they are just guessing too !!!!

What happens when they do the testing this fall and find CWD in the deer where I hunt north of Hayward ???? Are they going to say that they have to eradicate all the deer in that area too ?????

Let's face it people, it's been here, it's gonna stay here, live with it !!!!! That's my guess and I'm sticking to it !!!!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

&quot;If it sounds and looks too good to be true, it probably is !&quot;
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Nick, you just coming out of your cave now? Where you been since February? <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

If you had gone to any of the CWD info meetings you would have had all those redundant questions answered or explained many times over. <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

Before you continue any further maybe you should have your eyes and ears checked to make sure they are connected to your brain, because the info don't seem to be registering anywhere.

RE: CWD total to 40 deer, 2.57% Infection rate.
 

Sag,

I still haven't heard any definitive answers to any of these questions yet either. Just speculation and unproven theories. If you have some factual evidence that can enlighten me, please do! But to this point I haven't seen any evidence to support the DNR's solutions. But let me take another spin on this:

What if we do kill ALL of the deer within the eradication zone? Then what? We DO have hard evidence that deer reintroduced into a previously infected region have a high probability of contracting the disease, so essentially we will have rendered it barren of the deer herd.

What did this action accomplish?

Remember that the eradication zone is constantly expanding and the DNR has not indicated if it has any intentions of stopping this expansion. After this deer season, when the testing is done and it is found throughout the state with few exceptions will the eradication zone encompass the entire state? So we kill ALL the deer within this new revised eradication zone and then we will be left with nothing. An entire herd slaughtered out of fear that a disease may wipe it out.

Sorry I just don't see the logic.

There is no evidence that this disease will wipe out our herd, but I think there is some pretty strong evidence that if we do what the DNR advocates it will be wiped out.

So, again, What exactly are we saving the herd from?

Jolly

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RE: CWD total to 40 deer, 2.57% Infection rate.
 

Sag,
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> If you had gone to any of the CWD info meetings you would have had all those redundant questions answered or explained many times over. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

I rest my case !!!!!!!!

&quot;If it sounds and looks too good to be true, it probably is !&quot;
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RE: CWD total to 40 deer, 2.57% Infection rate.
 

the only place east of the mississippi that deer in the wild have been found with cwd is in the area near mt. horeb. there is absolutly no evidence (or facts) to support the claim that cwd has spread across the state and throughout the midwest. so if you are so determined to hear facts - lets hear the facts that support your claims as well.

just because you dont like the news that the wdnr reports, doesnt mean that this whole thing is a giant conspiracy. i find it hard to believe that everybody associated with this at the dnr is getting some kick back from the insurance companies to keep them quiet.

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RE: CWD total to 40 deer, 2.57% Infection rate.
 

Well, it's easy to see that this topic is as lively as usual!

Sag...with regard to Nick's questions, he's right. The DNR never answered many of them, other than to say &quot;we don't know&quot;. In fairness, it is not unexpected that the DNR would not have ALL the answers with regard to CWD. No one does. The problem isn't their lack of answers, but their forcing of a &quot;solution&quot; that basically calls for the extermination of all the deer in any infected area. Again, with regard to their solution...why??? Let me focus for a second on Nick's question number 7.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Although CWD was first documented in free-ranging deer and elk in southeast Wyoming and northeast Colorado in the 1980s, it is likely the disease has been present at least 30 to 50 years, Thorne adds. During that time there has been no corresponding incidence of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy diseases in humans in the area.

He also challenged statements that CWD “is found across the West.” “Chronic wasting disease has only been found in free-ranging deer and elk in southeast Wyoming, northeast Colorado and one positive case in the very western portion of the Nebraska panhandle,” he said. “In the affected area of Wyoming and Colorado tests show only 4 to 5 percent of deer have the disease and the rate is much lower for elk.”<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

Let me repeat: 30 to 50 years!!!

That by the way is stated by Dr. Tom Thorne, wildlife veterinarian and Services Division chief for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department.
This isn't some crackpot conspiracy theorist. Also, something else:

1) CWD was first discovered in the wild in the 1980's. Since that time, the population of deer in Wyoming and Colorado have increased, not decreased. Hardly indicative of any calamatous epidemic.

2) The rate of infection stated here in this thread in WI is a little less than 3%. This corresponds very closely with the 4-5% rate out West. As I stated above, this seems to contradict the contention that higher deer densities here would lead to higher infection rates.

The problem is not that the DNR does not have all the answers. The problem is that the DNR is reaching straight for the nuclear weapons to contend with this problem without having more answers than they do.

Edited by - TJD on 10/23/2002 21:46:49