olsaltydog

Ok if the guy comes back and explains something other then his one post I might take this more seriously. Other then that this could be a former employee, a competitor, could be anything. But for someone who has the option to sue you are gonna want to have your ducks in a row. Your gonna want to have a paper trail of transactions, communications, everything. If he takes it to court and fails to prove his point all the agent guy needs is a screen print from each forum he has visited to counter sue or even the agent start a lawsuit himself for slander, or defamation.

Murby

Well, like I said, he's probably not going to get his money back because its not enough to sue for.. There's a real gap in our civil suit system between small claims and a regular district level court.. You can sue for a little, or you can sue for a lot.. but the gray area in the middle takes the economics out of it.

Also, with a BBB.org rating of "F" already, I doubt this is a disgruntled employee as the pattern seems to fit.

I see your point however and you're not wrong..

FungusFinder

I read this post this morning. Did a quick check. Seems like there have been several complaints filed against this person, and an F rating by the BBB.

deernutz

Yes you can sue someone for $2000, and he can also put attorney fees in the lawsuit also. If he has a past the judge will see it. I say go for it.

I know a cheaper way. A $600 plane ticket and cab ride to his front door.

Murdy

Around here, small claims has jurisdiction up to $5,000, I believe. File in your home state, he won't show up, get a default judgment, file a lien on his house, business, whatever you can find, and wait til he tries to get a loan, you'll hear from him.

flags

If this happened in CO, then the originator needs to file a complaint with the Colorado Guides and Outfitters Association (they do a great job of policing themselves), the Colorado Division of Wildlife (I know it changed to Parks but I still call it DOW), and the Moffat County Chamber of Commerce. Craig is in Moffat County.

All Guides in CO are required to be licensed and registered. if you sent him a deposit by mail in accordance with a contract or agreement, then the guy is in violation of Federal Law because it happened by Post office. If the State of CO gets wind of this and it is found to be warranted, then his guide license will be suspended. The Guide and Outfitter Association can bring a lot of peer pressure on him and the Chamber of Commerce ban make doing business in Moffat County difficult. The DOW will keep a close eye on him if his license is suspended. Big Game hunting in CO is a multi-billion dollar a year business and they take crap like this seriously.

Of course, this is assuming the complaint is valid. It sounds a little suspicious to me since all deer tags in CO are limited and the originator would have had to apply for the tag by Apr 2013. If it was a land owner voucher, he would have had to do some paperwork to transfer the voucher from a landowner to himself. None of this could have been done without some sort of correspondence via the outfitter. And, it can't be done in the last 2 weeks.

My take, there is more to the story than this guy is telling us.

uncle matt

You know the old saying, "Bad publicity (especially free) is better than no publicity."

I saw this same cry and whine on another forum where Richie Botta showed up to refute the original claims and tell about everything he offers, the millions of satisfied customes, thousands of references, history of trophy animals and blah, blah, blah.

MAJOR SPAM!!!!!

timbercruiser

Huntersled was on www.aldeer.com (Alabama deer hunter) site a few weeks ago with this same statement. The outfitter posted a response that disputed these claims. I have no dog in this fight, but I would double check rather than take this as 100%.

olsaltydog

This is a scam or spam post and possibly on both fronts. The agent doesn't give the legit feeling and the poster doesn't give the legit feeling either especially after what i have seen.

NEhomer

As for suing, keep in kind that someone losing a small claims decision is no guarantee that any money will ever be paid. There are deadbeats with multiple judgements against them.

They should be under threat of arrest but alas, the courts have their filing fees and don't give a **** about your judgement. I won a $4300.00 judgement from a deadbeat tenant who then moved out of State and I have not and will not see a penny.