Scope not holding zero.
 

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About a year ago the last time I went to Wooster Mt. range some asst. RSO knocked my Sako off the bench and it bounced off the scope. I had no ammo to check it so I went home. Last week I was trying to evaluate some ammo and after each 2nd group the zero seemed to have shifted slightly I was using a Caldwell Tack Driver sand bag and rear back.

It's a Chinese made Aim Sport 4-12x and from the start there was tiny "flecks" in the image. I wonder if it's damage or was just a cheap scope from the start. I'm looking into the 1.5-6x Konus Pro with a 30mm tube so I don't have to change the Conetrol rings and base.

I'd say it was more than likely junk to begin with but the fall didn't help it. Konus is supposed to be fairly good scopes.

You should have hgotten some ammo immediately and held the guy who knocked the gun on to the ground responsible to replace it. Waiting a year to find out if there was damage is your mistake. If a gun falls on the scope seldom is good going to come of it. Looks lke you are out the price of a new scope.

I agree with Oldtimer. Why was the range officer walking so close to your weapon to begin with. At a minimum it was either his or the range's responsibility to replace your scope. You missed the boat on that one friend. As for a replacement I don't know much about Konus scopes. But I do like Nikons for the price.

The only scope type Nikon carries (like he is wanting) is the M223 which is WAY more than that Konus. My preference is Nikon also but he seems to want a 30mm tube with 1.5-6 power Which with Nikon is $699 I think. Seems just a bit pricey for that power range.

I would tell you where that cheap Chinese scope should be put and it involves the RSO that knocked the gun off the bench, but this is a family website and it wouldn't stay up very long, LOL!

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:D Al

Bingo, we have a winner!!! :cool2:

I had shot my last round and would have needed at least 3 to check zero. Nobody there had a .243 as this is black rifle Heaven on weekends. The range is state run and the other RSO can be counted on to say he never touched the bench.

OK, someone knocked you gun of a bench at a public range run by the state. You had no more ammo to check it so you went home without registering a complaint or checking to see if the range would be responsible for the damage if any. Then you wait about a year before you bothered to check the gun and scope to see if the scope was damaged. It was. What was the point of even telling us someone else damaged your gun if you didn't have the initative to have them held accountable or even to check your gun for a year to see if there was damage. I highly doubt a state range officer would have lied about damaging your gun and have another employe swear to it. I don't know for sure but having worked for a state agency that has a public range I doubt it and since you didn;t bother to report the incident, you don't know for sure either. They have insurance to cover all kinds of ills and people sometimes are careless, hence the insurance and the guy wouldn;t have been fired unless he had a history of being stupid. I have to wonder what the point of telling us the story

Just replace the scope with something else you would like to use. Plenty out there in a wide range of options. But before that, you can remount the scope to ensure it didn't come loose or moved on you. Check your notches to see if you have full range and also, do not introduce new ammo until you ensure the gun is properly sited beforehand. You have too many variables with damage being the first and foremost that comes to mind.

Next time also, don't wait, test it and file a complaint with the place as well. Will only provide you a paper trail if needed at a later date.

Strictly speaking, the statute of limitations for claims against the state probably hasn't run (2 years in most states, I think), though, as a practical matter, you might have problems proving your claim in terms of coming up with witnesses. Still, doesn't hurt to try. Then again, if we're talking about a cheap scope, might not be worth the trouble.

I understand why you would want to re-use the bases you already own, but you may be limiting your choices to the point that you will be passing on some good deals that would make up for the cost of changing them.

And if you can afford a Sako, put a decent scope on it. ;)

I was thinking the same thing if he has a Sako!!! I was also thinking that there is no way anyone would get close enough to any of my rifles or other equipment in that type of a situation to cause something like that in the first place.

Awwww shucks, Sako's aint that expensive :p I was kinda wondering why have a 50 dollar scope on a Sako. Maybe he blew his wad on the rifle.

I'm also of the mind to change out those bases and rings and put on a better quality scope without limiting yourself to 30mm tubes. Set it up with a nice Nikon or Leupold for a value price and still getting a top notch scope. A nice monarch 3 2-8x32 Nikon is around $300. Top quality glass and pretty dang bright for a 32mm OBJ. Nice compact little scope for the price.

Actually it was a $150 scope and after the cost of mounts, mounting and the $800 for Kenny's old rifle that was what I had at the time. I wish I'd waited and gotten a Konus as they seem a decent value for the money. It's a 1967 Forester heavy barrel.

Eh, hate to tell you buddy but you got ripped off. The most expensive Aim Sports scope I can find online is one of their ACOG knockoff wanna be tacticool scopes for $149. And I can't find a single 30mm tube in their lineup. Their scopes go generally from $30 to $75 bucks except for the "tacticool" looking junkers which go from $90 to $149. It's a junker line of scopes for guys who have blown their wad on an expensive rig and didn't think about budgeting for good glass.

Never used a Konus but they have a fairly good reputation. I personally think you can get a scope just as good or even better for $100 or so bucks less than that scope you are looking at.

At our ranges you leave your weapon on the bench, and step back across the line. The range officer walks the line and ensures that all the weapons are clear. If they have to move your weapon to check it they do. I've never heard of a problem though.

I'd like to mention that years ago I fell off of a mountain with my Ruger rifle, and old weaver scope. The cross hairs looked like an x as opposed to a cross. But the rifle still held it's zero.

Buy a good scope!

I've got a Leupold VX1 4-12-40mm with a Duplex reticle on my .243 Sako Forester and it will drive tacks all day every day. A rifle like that definitely deserves a good scope like Mickey Fin stated!

THis was bough 5 yrs ago at the FIRST Westchester County gun show in TEN years at the County Center. The previous Saturday I'd had to accept my diploma in legal studies from the filthy rat claws of Schmuck Schumer. As a grad present to myself I snapped up Kenny Jarrett's old Sako and the first scope I could buy with the change I had left. The other present to moi was a Kimber Grand Raptor II from the Custom Shop.

It is 30mm and may be the last time they made such. Illuminated reticle and all.

I'm looking into a 4.5-16x Konus with bubble level and lighted mil-dot reticle for under $300. That HAS to beat the Aim Sport by a light year. The asst. RSO was ambling along and HAD to see the bolt open but "accidentally" bumped the bench and the rifle rolled off the sand bags. HE blamed me for having it so "precariously balanced" my keester.

May want to look into those lighted reticles. Some people have trouble with them due to a "glare" (for lack of a better term) from the reticle. Some people love them, others, like me, that have highly amplified night vision have trouble with them. The "glare" kind of offsets the aim point. Not to mention, it's just something else to go wrong on the scope. While technology is a wonderful thing sometimes, when hunting, I strongly believe in the K.I.S.S. Theory. Keep It Simple Stupid. The more crap you depend on gives greater odds in something going wrong.

I've used a lighted on for years. I rarely light it up except on a LOW setting at first shooting light.

+1

Great at dawn & dusk...............and when aiming into the shadows.

BTW - If for whatever reason the lighted reticle fails...........it's a black reticle just like your - LOL :poke:

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Sorry about that Cal! I tell people not to comment and to just send an alert to you like I do a lot and then did it myself, but it was because it was such a goofy one! That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it!!! You do have to admit that it was a weird one in that it wasn't selling anything like they usually are. Anyway, you need to earn that big money they're paying you as a Mod, LOL!

Bushnell Elite is pretty hard to beat for the money.

I guess it was similarly a junk......right??

Pick up a Nikon Vortex or Leupold

i used Bushnell scope chief from 1963 until 1992. The last was a bdc. A great scope that steadily got less and less dependable. I shipped it to the factory and when it came back it was worse. I spent the money and got a leupold 3-9. The gun went back to being the tack driver it always was. I've never had a problem since. Buy the best burris, nicon, leupold you can afford. Cheap scopes are no bargin.

The Aim Sports are pretty cheap and I would not rely on them.

I personally have had very good luck with Bushnell Scopes. http://amzn.to/1Vkt0QS

Thanks!