30-06 Ammo
#11
One of my 30-06 rifles that I use most often is a Ruger 77UL with a Zeiss 3X9X40 scope. I have hunted deer, caribou and elk with that same gun and always use Federal 180 gr Barnes TSX bullets. No problems this year bringing down a Vt buck and a Colorado elk with that set up. Great performance as well as accuracy out of that little light weight gun with that load.
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#13
Nontypical Buck
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Did not see anyone mention this so ... every rifle is somewhat unique in what load it groups best with. The reasons are rather complex and no need to go into now. Exacting hand loaders like myself will fiddle with powders, loads, and bullet combinations hours on end looking for that "best" load.
Using factory loads, the method is similar. I would recommend is to buy (or bum 3 rounds from) 3-4 boxes of significantly different loads. Say for your 30.06 Spr. .... something "cheap" using a 150 gr., another maybe "premium" using 165 gr. , a third using 180 gr., and a different maker that uses one of these same bullet weights. The more different ones that you can try the more likely you are to find that one that matches your rifle best. But at $15-$60 a box that can get expensive in a hurry.
Go to the range ... make sure you are on paper good at 100 yards. I like to use a big piece of white "project" board for this phase of sighting in just to make sure I am "on" the paper !!! Then shoot 3 rounds aiming at a bulls eye centered in the target. Take your time between shots to let the barrel cool off. Shoot with the best form that you can. Don't sweat where the "group" hits. If it is way high and right of where you aimed for example, no big deal. What you are looking for at this point is finding the tightest group, no matter where that 3 shot group happens to hit.
With a pen, connect the 3 shot holes, forming a triangle. Now draw a line from on point to the center of the opposite side. This will form a 3-spokked "star". This is where the "average of that group is hitting. You can measure the distance from each bullet hole to the where these 3 lines cross. Average that distance and that is the measurement of how tight your group is. You should not settle for anything greater than an average of 2". If every ammo that you tried hit wider than this, try a few more. My experience is that you will be able to find ammo that will hit well inside 2".
Once you have found that best (tightest) group, then adjust your iron sights or scope for whatever "zero" you want. You probably will have to shoot a few more times to zero the rifle. If, as you say, your max range is around 100 yards, I'd zero it dead on at 100 yards.
Go back to where you bought the ammo and buy more of that same stuff that grouped great. Each box should have a "lot number" stamped on it. Stay with that lot if at all possible.
As far as bullet wieight for deer .... 150 gr. or heavier is plenty good enough.
Using factory loads, the method is similar. I would recommend is to buy (or bum 3 rounds from) 3-4 boxes of significantly different loads. Say for your 30.06 Spr. .... something "cheap" using a 150 gr., another maybe "premium" using 165 gr. , a third using 180 gr., and a different maker that uses one of these same bullet weights. The more different ones that you can try the more likely you are to find that one that matches your rifle best. But at $15-$60 a box that can get expensive in a hurry.
Go to the range ... make sure you are on paper good at 100 yards. I like to use a big piece of white "project" board for this phase of sighting in just to make sure I am "on" the paper !!! Then shoot 3 rounds aiming at a bulls eye centered in the target. Take your time between shots to let the barrel cool off. Shoot with the best form that you can. Don't sweat where the "group" hits. If it is way high and right of where you aimed for example, no big deal. What you are looking for at this point is finding the tightest group, no matter where that 3 shot group happens to hit.
With a pen, connect the 3 shot holes, forming a triangle. Now draw a line from on point to the center of the opposite side. This will form a 3-spokked "star". This is where the "average of that group is hitting. You can measure the distance from each bullet hole to the where these 3 lines cross. Average that distance and that is the measurement of how tight your group is. You should not settle for anything greater than an average of 2". If every ammo that you tried hit wider than this, try a few more. My experience is that you will be able to find ammo that will hit well inside 2".
Once you have found that best (tightest) group, then adjust your iron sights or scope for whatever "zero" you want. You probably will have to shoot a few more times to zero the rifle. If, as you say, your max range is around 100 yards, I'd zero it dead on at 100 yards.
Go back to where you bought the ammo and buy more of that same stuff that grouped great. Each box should have a "lot number" stamped on it. Stay with that lot if at all possible.
As far as bullet wieight for deer .... 150 gr. or heavier is plenty good enough.
Last edited by Mojotex; 01-09-2013 at 02:50 PM.
#15
Spike
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: W.Kelowna, B.C.
Ed, I've got a 30.06 and it's now my elk and moose rifle here in B.C.. For this big game, after a lot of research and talking to a lot of guys with experience, I went with the 168 grain Barnes TTSX ammo. I've shot a few elk and several moose with it, and they've dropped immediately or didn't go far at all. It's a tough all copper bullet that stays in one piece even if you hit a large bone and penetrates deeply.
When I used the 30.06 for our big stout mule deer and smaller whitetails, I used a 150 grain Nosler Accubond in the later years. It's also a stout bullet but not as stout as the Barnes, and will open up perfectly out to several hundred yards. That makes it an excellent bullet for deer at close or long range, it shoots accurately out of almost every rifle, and the light weight reduces recoil. I'd recommend them loaded in Federal ammo.
Hope this helps! :-)
When I used the 30.06 for our big stout mule deer and smaller whitetails, I used a 150 grain Nosler Accubond in the later years. It's also a stout bullet but not as stout as the Barnes, and will open up perfectly out to several hundred yards. That makes it an excellent bullet for deer at close or long range, it shoots accurately out of almost every rifle, and the light weight reduces recoil. I'd recommend them loaded in Federal ammo.
Hope this helps! :-)
#18
Mojo gave you a pretty good response. When you buy ammo off the shelf, you may have to try a few different ones to get the one that will shoot the best out of your gun. I bought a new 7mm a few years ago and because of a budget had to try the less expensive soft point ammo off the shelf. In the past I have had good luck with federal, but I could not get the riffle to group. Shot up a couple of boxes before buying some Winchester to try. Within 10 shots the rifle was tack driving at 100 yards. Just my experience so take it for what it's worth. Good luck. HD.



