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zeiss or leupold ????
Hi, got a question, Just purchased 270wsnSako Finnlight. need to put a scope on it now. been looking at the zeiss conquest, and the Leupold Vari XIII. Looking at something with a 50mm bell need opinions thanks.
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I personally prefer the Conquest...
Have you actually handled the Conquest? They are relatively big, and heavy in the 50mm models....not sure why you would buy a "lite" model gun then place a such a large scope on it...? I think you would you be much better off with the Conquest 3-9x40, or if you really want something bigger the Conquest 3.5-10x44. |
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I've got a Leupold 4.5-14X40 VXIII, and it is a very nice scope. It is bright, and very compact for it's power. Probably the best feature I like about it is the eye relief.
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Being that it’s a Finnlight ,I would go with the Conquest 3-9 x 40 or the 3.5-10 x 44 as previously mentioned to keep the weight down but if you’re going to use some Optilock base and rings then it doesn’t matter because the lowest rings can still handle 50 mm obj. lens if you so desire. Hope you enjoy your 270 WSM Sako as much as I do. Good luck...
Just to add, the 3-9 Conquest has a constant 4” eye relief and the 3.5-10 has 3.5” of constant eye relief , in case you’re interested...:eek: |
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go with the zeiss conquest3x9x40 great scope
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Zeiss, with it no need to go with 50mm bell. Ihave 2 40 & 44 and don't notice any real world difference between them. In my comparison both favored better than the VXIII in regards to clarity & brightness. Constant eye relief is big plus IMHO. Never owned a scope with it prior and now I really prefer it to the variable my leupolds, bushnells, etc give.
Either scope (leuy VX III or Conquest)in 40mm will harness/transmit more thanenough light for legal biggame hunting. If you must have a 50 mm then so be it, I still say Zeiss though. |
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Another vote for Zeiss here. Optical performance is just better than Leupold in my experience with both. I've got 3-9x40 Conquests sitting atop both of my Sakos.
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I know Zeiss puts out a good product but I am thrilled w/the Leupold 3x9x50 I purchased for my A-bolt 270 wsm last year...it has great optics/eye relief..
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Reason for purchasing Finnlight, I was looking for a stainlessA-bolt in 270wsm, and local dealer ( small mom and pop sportshop ) would have to order one for me, but he said he had this new sako finnlight in the caliber I was looking for. had a sticker price on it of $1399.00 but he didnt want to carry it overtill next year. said would take $1000.00 including tax. the browning same caliber was around $800.00, (and I looked around alot.) always dreamed of owning a sako but never thought I could afford one. didnt need it to be light, 95% of my hunting is donefrom a stand. so scope weightwasn't that critical. I don't want to offendBrowning A-boltfans but after handling the Browning and the Sako, there is no comparison. only thing I have to do now is to start putting money away for a good high quality scope. thanks for the zeiss info.
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i have the leupold and i love it and if you put aluminator lens on it is super bright
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Thats why I stopped buying guns at mom and pa gun shops 1300.00 for the finnlight what a rip. They were at Reeds sporting goods store here for850.00.
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Not to offend you Stevie, but there's nothing you can do w/that Sako that I can't do w/my A-bolt...we're still talking about hunting right?:eek:
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ORIGINAL: steviebiggun I don't want to offendBrowning A-boltfans but after handling the Browning and the Sako, there is no comparison. only thing I have to do now is to start putting money away for a good high quality scope. thanks for the zeiss info. www.bearbasin.com www.eurooptic.com www.theopticzone.com www.swfa.com Do you already have scope mounts for the Sako? If not I recommend either Conetrol or Sako Optilocks. Ifpush came to shove, I think I'd go withthe Conetrols. |
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ORIGINAL: Garminator Not to offend you Stevie, but there's nothing you can do w/that Sako that I can't do w/my A-bolt...we're still talking about hunting right?:eek: |
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Well put Stevie...p.s. "I like that sharp rockyou mentioned", but i'm nowhere nearly that talented :D, be safe buddy.
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The ziess 3x9x40 would also be my choice.I have owned both sako and browning and I much prefered the sako safety and magazine tothe a-bolt tang safety and magazine system.
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although i have never looked at the zeiss my vote is with the LEUPOLD but maybe some can educate me a bit. the conquest is the lowest line budget model? the leupold varix iii is far from that in there line. the leupold has greater eye relief. the LEUPOLD is MADE IN AMERICA . if i have a problem i know how to take care of it because leupolds service and warranty is legendary even allowing transfer of warranty to the next buyer. where does the zeiss go for repair? unless there are trained techs and repair facilities here in the states i always insist that any of my more expensive purchases go back to the company and not some monkey that says they can fix any transmission because they saw the video:D. another turn off is when i look at super store sales flyers i seen a video camcorder that says it has a carl zeiss lens. i have to laugh because the camera is only a couple hundred so whats the cost of the lens about 50 cents . why would a company put there name on a cheap piece like that. this is just my gut feelings. at that price just have a look through each and decide your needs.
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the conquest is the lowest line budget model? the leupold varix iii is far from that in there line. True but this comparison doesn't paint an accurate picture in terms of optical performance. In my comparison the Conquest was a winner in resolution, clarity and brightness vs the VXIII. Now this is subjective to personal attention but at the very worst they compare very favorably to each other on the optics side of things. Another personal thing I like in terms of construction is the Zeiss is 1 piece tube the VXII is 3! The change to 3 piece in the VX III from 1 of the vari x III caused me to scratch my head! the leupold has greater eye relief. True. Howeverif you compare the 3x9x40 Conquest to the3.5x10x40 VXIII you'll see this really becomes a non-issue. Thismodel of conquest has 4" constant eye relief, meaning no change when you adjust the power in ER afforded. Meanwhile the VXIII has4.6" (3x)to 3.6 (9x). Personal note I haven't had any problems with 3.5" of eye relief so published ER just isn't a big factor to me. However having used variable for ions and now having a few scopes equipped with constant ER, I have to tell you it is a great feature and wish they all came equipped with this. the LEUPOLD is MADE IN AMERICA . So is the Zeiss Conquest line, build in NY. Don't fool yourself both use components that are not made in the USA,but are rather assembled in the USA. if i have a problem i know how to take care of it because leupolds service and warranty is legendary even allowing transfer of warranty to the next buyer. where does the zeiss go for repair? unless there are trained techs and repair facilities here in the states I haven't had any issues with my conquests (actually never had any with my leupolds either), so haven't usedeither CS personally. However all reports I have heard from both Leupold & Zeiss Conquest are top notch. AKA: fast, quality and customer satisfaction. Zeiss Conquest also comes with lifetime gaurantee and transferable warranty for NA customers. They are also repaired in the USA, at the facility in NY. |
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Zeiss, without doubt.
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Forgot to mention another personal attribute I found in comparing the 2. The reticle portion of the Zeiss Conquest really stood out as a winner vs the leuy VXIII. I first must say I prefer duplex reticles for hunting so when I compared the z-plex reticle to the standard duplex on the leupold, the zeiss won in landslide. To me, it jumped out at my eye and unlike the leupold standard duplex it never faded into the background. Also the Zeiss uses an etched reticle vs wire on the Leupold.
Now these may or may not matter to you but just further points to one must compare side by side to get a true representation of the performance/features of your next scope. |
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the leupold has greater eye relief. the LEUPOLD is MADE IN AMERICA . if i have a problem i know how to take care of it because leupolds service and warranty is legendary even allowing transfer of warranty to the next buyer. where does the zeiss go for repair? unless there are trained techs and repair facilities here in the states . |
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I have a leupold on my Finnlite but plan on replacing it with the Conquest 3x9x40. Not really into 50mm objectives, I find they are getting heavy enough at 40 mm.
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Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x 40 mm is plenty. In my experience this scope provides good visibility AFTER my unaided eye is no longer able to distinguish targets because of descending darknessand AFTER legal shooting light has passed. What purpose would be served by providing even more dim light capability in this context? Is hunting at midnight legal anywhere in the United States? The Leupold is very robust and field worthy. The image rendered by this scope is very crisp and clear. Sure, I can believe other higher dollar scopes provide a brighter image and a crisper image, but I don't buy that this means they provide any advantage for hunting, as described above. You can pay more, but do you get any hunting advantage under any circumstances? Just my $0.02. I have three Leupold VariX-III 3.5-10x 40 mm and one Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x 40 mm scopes mounted on .25-06, .243, .30-06 (sporterized military Springfield), and .30-06 (Remington ADL with synthetic stock -- my backup/foul weather rifle -- can use this in the rain when I don't want to risk damaging or spoiling the finish on my wood stocked rifles).
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Yes, the Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40 is plenty scope. I know, I've owned one. However, for about $20 LESSI prefer theZeiss Conquest 3-9x40 which to my eyes has slightly better optics, a better reticle and a constant 4" of eye relief. And in my experience the Zeiss is just as rugged.
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great info! to me eye relief and having some give is a big deal. my buddy watched a nice buck walk right by him this past season because he couldnt get the scope on the deer quick enough. with his heart pumping and the way he had to position himself in the stand all he saw was shadow. i get the feeling it was the eye relief and nerves. also i think some may get caught up in the fact that they can own a big pricey name brand optic associated with the big dollar ones at a low price. for instance my musician and recording studio buddies bought 900$ german made microphones and bought it because it was a new line of a big company that typically sold microphones for well over 2 grand. guess what my 400$ japanese mic blows theres away. i know its off subject a bit but just my way of thinking.
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I have both and they are great scopes. My Zeiss is an older3-9 variable and the Lupy is only a couple of years old. The new Leupold is probably just as good as my older Zeiss. A good side by side comparison is the only true way to decide. Years ago when I bought my Zeiss I held it up to about 6 other scopes and even though it was more money it was worth it. I have Zeiss binoculars too and a couple of years ago on a trip to rainy Newfoundland they leaked and fogged up. When I returned I went on line and sent them back. I got a brand new pair of Zeiss because the 6 year old binoculars failed. Give some thought to the 50 bell. Too big for me especially on a gun that is fitted to be light weight.
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Ive owned both but I like my Leupold Euro as much as any I have ever owned ...
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I got a Zeiss 3x9-40 Conquest on my wby 257mag Ultra-lite...and it's the clearest scope I've ever looked through..but it's like most of the rest in it's class...too heavy. That 257mag..supposenly "Ultra-Lite" is not so light and I should have put a compact Leupold on it to helpout. I would but haven't used thatgun in the last two seasons.
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HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Leupold
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Leupold vari-xIII
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i put a leo vx-III 4.5-14x40 on my 300 wsm last year and absolutely love it. i just bought an new vx-III 6.5-20x40 for my 22-250 too. cant wait to get that in. i think that the 50 mm tube is somewhat needless. there is only so much light the eye can take in and it also makes the mount higher from the gun
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i just bought an new vx-III 6.5-20x40 for my 22-250 too. |
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