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Hey guys......does this stuff actually work.
I need a waterproof shell and not sure I buy into this stuff.
I can see where there may be some scent mitigation, but all the hype about 'scent free'?
I'm thinking those deer don't need many molecules in order for their attention to be got.

So what's the deal?

john

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But it , it's worth every penny, dispite what other say about it. Every edge you can get on a deer is worth it. Buy it and you'll see the difference. It's expensive, but it's better than using regular clothes. Her in NY it's harder than most states to kill a big buck, ask anybody who hunts here or lives here.compare the people who have harvested huge bucks with it, as opposed to with out it since it's start. You'll find that there are more buck killed with it than without it. BUY IT!!!!!!

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Since Lou-lou has taken the pro side allow me to take the con .
Is a $300-400 suit lined with carbon worth the money ? No . An Army issue MOPP suit that you can get for $15 is just as effective and just as temporary , and has far more carbon . It is designed to keep aerosolized ABC elements out , so it will keep VOCs in for awhile until the carbon clogs . Also , the carbon in the hunting version , besides having far less of it , is bonded to the fabric . This means that roughly half of it's surface is permanently clogged , so it's only half as effective as it could be . "Regenerate" activated carbon in a 150 degree dryer ? Pfffftttt ! Don't make me laugh , it might drive out some stinky VOCs but it will bake the rest in where they will never come out except when a deer is downwnd .

If you really want to try carbon suits get a MOPP suit or two , gently rinse them in a tub to reduce the factory smell , then air dry outside and pack away in a scent free container until ready to use . DO NOT PUT IT IN THE WASHER . You can usually find them at the Sportsman's Guide or Cheaper than Dirt websites . A fresh carbon suit will work for about 2 weeks and then you can either throw it away or donate it to somebody who needs some warm camo .

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Kevin is right on the mark! Save some money and do like he says.

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got to go with kevin on this one. besides, i think WAY to much is made of these products that everyone says you HAVE to have.

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You can go to www.armygear.net and get one, in the bag, for $24.95, if you wear a small. They do have a sizing chart there. (Look at the left-hand column and go to the link marked "Hunting Suits Scent Locking."

Which is exactly what I was going to do, but I have a question first.How would you clean the MOPP suit? I seem to remember tales of people who have run them through a washer having a bunch of the carbon run out of them. (PS--I think that they'd work great with BaseSlayers underneath.)

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You're right , do not put them in the washer . Don't ask how I know that ... ;)

When I buy new ones I rinse them off with the water hose to reduce the factory smell , then I hang them on hangers outside to air dry until they don't smell anymore . Having them get rained on helps , believe it or not . Once all trace of smells are gone I pack them in a scent free bag until needed . Alternately , you could soak the garment in a plastic tub with some Sportwash and rinse with ordinary water and then air dry . The chlorine from the water will evaporate as the garment dries or get adsorbed . Don't expect more than 2 weeks of normal use before you discard it .

You can try rewashing it , but I've been busted after trying that before . MOPP suits have something like 60 grams of carbon per square foot , about twice what a ScentLok suit does , and it's unbonded so you get to use it all . Carbon being porous also makes it a great insulator . Base Layers are unnecessary and will make you roast unless it's very cold outside .

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Correct me if I'm wrong, NBC suits are only used for a couple of days and then thrown away after they are opened from the plastic bag. Maybe your MOPPsuit is different. All I know is that I bought one of those cheap suits in a magazine a few years ago and it didn't work nearly as good as the scent-lok. I once was like you but after seeing what this stuff can do in the field, I changed my mind. I would never go bowhunting without it ever again. Some say it dosen't work, others say it's not scientificlly possiable, but somehow deer don't wind me when they are down wind and I'm on the ground. Is it by chance that you kill 3-4 deer a year from the ground. I doubt it.

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NBC and MOPP suits are the same thing , Lou-lou .
In combat areas where NBC use is possible they wear them about the same way I do , the suits are rated for 2 weeks of continuous use but must then be discarded . This is it's expected lifespan based on it's use with NBC agents , the known properties of activated carbon , and rigorous scientific testing and evaluation . If the carbon could be "regenerated" without destroying the garment I'm fairly sure that the Army would be doing so , even they like to save money sometimes.

An NBC/MOPP suit contains more carbon than ScentLok , the carbon isn't bonded and therefore losing half of it's surface area like ScentLok, costs less than 1/10th what ScentLok does , and you can still get busted regardless . You cannot eliminate all scent . I've had deer approach within feet of me in the woods while wearing a MOPP suit , and they had no idea that I was there . But I also had attractor scent out , and cover scent on me . I've had the very same experience wearing ordinary camo with cover scent , with the deer approaching from downwind in both instances . I'm not saying that carbon doesn't work , just that it isn't worth hundreds of dollars to try for yourself . When the carbon suits first came out I'll admit that I bought into the marketing hype too , but once I did some digging I found facts that changed my mind .

There are plenty of threads about it here with links to the real facts about carbon adsorbtion , look for youeself and draw your own conclusions . Or , if you really want to see what your suit and scent reduction routine can really do just try hiding from your dog .Try not to be too disappointed whenyou can't .

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I agree it's expensive, wish it wasen't, but if there's the slightest bit of chance it works, which I think it does to an extent, it's better then nothing at all. Your right one cannot completly be scent free, but every bit helps.

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Thanks for all of the replies folks.
I suspect that the 'cons' (pun intended) are correct.
I don't believe that 'scent loc' works as claimed, but it sounds like any benefit that the 'scent capturing' carbon provides would be at least as good at the far lower price of the mopp/nbc clothing.
I'm gonna check the military stuff out.

Thanks again.

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i have used scent-lok for a few years now. yes it does work. but you can't be lazy either.keep yourself,equipment and clothes scent free in order to have it work. you say the cheap ones work. they might. but you can get scent-lok siut in the mail order catalogs for a lil under 300.00. yours work for 2 weeks. i would need 4 siuts for 1 year. 100.00. every year. ive had my scent lok for over 5 years. i have a friend thats had his for 10 or more. id get the scent-lok and be done spending. don't buy anything but scent-lok tho. all the others can only use half the carbon as scent-lok. something to do with the patent.just my .02

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I just use the scent free soaps and detergent. I dont buy any of those scent blocker clothes. My old football coach and I got into a discussion on day after practice about how effective scent blocker is. My coach, being a big bowhunter told me he thought it was a gimick. He told me he took a crap and a piss within 40 yards of his stand and 45 minutes later killed the biggest buck of his life. According to the scent blocker people, ifdeer can smell you from like 1000 yards away why would an old wiley5 1/2 year old 11 point go anywhere near a human crap. My oppinion is that scent control is important but they are also just trying to sell their product. Most of it is a gimick.

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I go for thinnest and warmest..i bought the idigear jacket last season
look at www.idigear.com greatest thing since duck soup

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Ivory scent free soap.. Wash your clothers in baking soda,,line dry, then bag up. Dress in field ..not in your car or house. Get the wind in your face and ..BOOYAH youll see that monster buck and not spend your day thinking about how much you spent on that scentlock suit and its effectiveness..Where was scentlock when we killed our first deer???

Soon it will be suits with built in sex lures and cover scents, all youll have to do is hit a button on your suit,,,and pay the thousands it'll cost

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they dont work i have heard it from magazines, tv shows and people dont waste the money

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I have to say this is something that I have been debating about buying with this being my first year of hunting. I hunt right off my property about 300-400 yards from the house with the deer. My question is for me is just taking a shower in the morning with a non-scent soap and making sure to wash my clothing every few days in non-scent soap and hang try isall I need then?

If I can save the cash that would be great.

I was thinking of getting something like this and for the cash I did not think $159.95 forcoveralls was a bad price.

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=48165&hvarDept=400&a mp;hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=15&hvarSubCode =5&hvarTarget=browse

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I'm sorry but your method is flawed. 1st why buy any army chemical suit that come s from the factory already smelling of foreign odors. then you say hang it out side to air out. The whole time the suit is filling up with the smells of the outdoors cloging up the carbon molicules. These suits must be stored in a air tight container to keep ALL scent from being absorbed. I say if you can afford the scent lok?scent blocker stuff , get it. it's not 100% but it will help more than nothing at all. If the Mopp suit is your cup of tea than wear it I'm sure it's better than nothing at all aswell. Just my 2 cents

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Just out of curiosity , what did your ScentLok smell like when you first brought it home ? My guess is that it didn't smell like "nothing" . If anything it probably smelled just like the store where you bought it or the factory where it was made .

Carbon ain't forever , and airing out the fabric shellin a wooded setting like where I live only makes it smell like home to a deer . Since I don't intend to keep the suits for years it doesn't matter if they adsorb a little woods smell . All I can say is that it works , and after comparing results with friends who own ScentLok my $15 suit works just as well as that overpriced gimmickry .

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I had a deer come within 10 yds of me when I went out after work with no prep other than putting my camo on and nocking an arrow...I was also 15 yds off a main road. I dropped some deer pee and was in a stand, that was it. Did I smell, hell yeah...but I wanted to get some time in and had cased that spot a couple of times and wondered if it would work there...it did. Deep in the woods the deer don't expect that smell of man...but they get a little something from us when they feed on the side of the road (usually right after you spent the whole day in the woods with no sign of deer).
Plan accordingly for your hunt and you may be pleased with the results.

Tim

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wast of money.my buddy shoots deer and so do i without spending the money i can think of lots other things to spend the money on.the biggest buck my buddy shot he was haveing a smoke at the time and was in his greasy work cloths.

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I BELEIVE IN IT, I USE SCENT LOC PRODUCTS TO BATH AND SHOWER.. I ALSO HAVE A SCENT LOC JACKET AND A BASE LAYER PANTS . IK ILLED TWO 8 POINT BUCKS IN LATE SEASON 2003 BOTH FRROM GROUND STAND AT 50 YARDS ,THEY NEVER ONCE NEW I WAS THERE, ONE HAD 21 INCH SPREAD ,THE OTHER WAS A TALL RACK 18 INCH SPREAD. QUITE A ACCOMPLISHMENT I THINK,, LOOKING TO BUY SOME SCENT LOC BIBS REAL SOON. BOTH THESE BUCKS IN SAME WEEK FROM THE SAME STAND

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YES DEER SOMETIMES DO STUPID THINGS, BUT NORMALLY THAT BIG BUCK IS USING THAT NOSE , AND U NEED EVERY ADVANTAGE U CAN GET. HE DID NOT GET BIG BY BEING STUPID. AND I WILL TELL U A OLD DOE WILL WIND U JUST AS QUICK OR QUICKER THAN THAT BUCK. BUCKS AFTER DOE S WILL DO SOME STUPID TRICKS... KIND OF LIKE SOME MEN

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Combine the cheap suit with some even cheaper homemade scent killer and you've got an affordable, but very effective, scent control solution.

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I think that some people may be confusing scent lok with scent elimination. If you don't go the full nine yards your only as good as your weekest link right? In other words, if I use my wifes shampoo and my dial soap, but then expect a scent blocking suit (manufactured or military) to remove that perfume you just put on your kidding yourself. For any of these scent minimizing products to work you have to use scent free cleaning products (on yourself and the suit) and then make sure that you are enclosed head to toe. Including either tight boots or scent minimizing socks and most importantly a scent hood. I read somewhere that 40% of our scent comes from our head (including breath) and feet. Just my $.02