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#11
OK, I just got done looking into "breed content" DNA testing.
The test is not yet available to the public, and is part of the Canine Genome study.
They are finding some interesting things already though.
UC Davis is doing part of the study. They are testing various breeds, but so far, they have
studied GSPs more than other breeds.and now some significant results have been published on the mapping of the canine genome and it may be possible to detect "hanky-panky" in a single dog's dna. I understand (by rumor only) there has been considerable study of the dna of American GSPs which has identified an outcross to EPs and even the dog used in the outcross.
Sorry for the confusion.
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The test is not yet available to the public, and is part of the Canine Genome study.
They are finding some interesting things already though.
UC Davis is doing part of the study. They are testing various breeds, but so far, they have
studied GSPs more than other breeds.and now some significant results have been published on the mapping of the canine genome and it may be possible to detect "hanky-panky" in a single dog's dna. I understand (by rumor only) there has been considerable study of the dna of American GSPs which has identified an outcross to EPs and even the dog used in the outcross.
Sorry for the confusion.
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#12
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Now we are back to the fact that raising and selling dogs is still an
HONOR SYSTEM.Thank you for all responses.Please read the whole thing--and respond if you wish.I will now tell the rest of the storyon somedealings that have been going on for some time. The A** with the rott/lab actually has about 20 Labs and breeds them all--he is currently selling them to a broker in Grand Rapids,MIfor 195.00 each.(I heard about it from a guy at work so I drove out to see for myself,he wasn't lying).The guy was very nice and gladly bragged about it--said the broker did'nt care if he had papers or not--he(the broker) would put GOOD papers on them. The dogs appeared well cared for and each wore a bark collar,. due toit beingset up in a subdivision in his shop behind his house.The rott is to keep people away from his dogs when hes not home. He also told me that he soldaround 100 pups to thisbrokerlast year(2007),there weren't any pups there at the time.Now this is where your problems are starting--I don't know how long this has been going on but he did tell me that thebroker hunted alot and didn't want to take his females away from hunting season and develope an unsightly sack. Sorry but he wouldn't disclose the Brokers name and thats about the time he started getting very defensive about me being there so I left after that.Now you see why dna testing needs to be done.In 5 yrs. there will be 500 of them in the Great Lakes region alone.
Now I have another --about a month ago, my family and I went to the drivein(movies). A lady about two cars down had a dog of some kind. My son being used to being around some very niceAKCdogsquickly pointed out to us it was a mutt quite loudly, at this point I had a very short and to the point discussion with him as to how rude hebehaving and that whateverthe dog was, she loved it anyway or it wouldn't be there with her.I was sure she had overheard,he then promptlywent to her and said he was sorry (At which time he did ask what type of dog it was and her response with a grin was "hes a mutt,but my big baby)
Now doc I've read how you keep on people about testing and it is a great thing having a dog you have complete faith and trust in his breeding and genectics, It has been stated that you yourself are a backyard breeder(no insult implied here--you just honestly haven't bred that many times--not enough to even have toDNA testing requiredyet,although I'm sure you have already done it yourself). You are a very responsible breeder who cares about his dogs, but the way you are talking to people is not unlike my 10year old. I've been watching this site for awhile and my suggestion is to contact the mods and have all the test anddata posted ina permanent post (right below the moderaters).You cangreatly improve how many people see it,people that my not read every ad you respond to. Please be tactful in the writing though--Facts and Figures only.
HONOR SYSTEM.Thank you for all responses.Please read the whole thing--and respond if you wish.I will now tell the rest of the storyon somedealings that have been going on for some time. The A** with the rott/lab actually has about 20 Labs and breeds them all--he is currently selling them to a broker in Grand Rapids,MIfor 195.00 each.(I heard about it from a guy at work so I drove out to see for myself,he wasn't lying).The guy was very nice and gladly bragged about it--said the broker did'nt care if he had papers or not--he(the broker) would put GOOD papers on them. The dogs appeared well cared for and each wore a bark collar,. due toit beingset up in a subdivision in his shop behind his house.The rott is to keep people away from his dogs when hes not home. He also told me that he soldaround 100 pups to thisbrokerlast year(2007),there weren't any pups there at the time.Now this is where your problems are starting--I don't know how long this has been going on but he did tell me that thebroker hunted alot and didn't want to take his females away from hunting season and develope an unsightly sack. Sorry but he wouldn't disclose the Brokers name and thats about the time he started getting very defensive about me being there so I left after that.Now you see why dna testing needs to be done.In 5 yrs. there will be 500 of them in the Great Lakes region alone.
Now I have another --about a month ago, my family and I went to the drivein(movies). A lady about two cars down had a dog of some kind. My son being used to being around some very niceAKCdogsquickly pointed out to us it was a mutt quite loudly, at this point I had a very short and to the point discussion with him as to how rude hebehaving and that whateverthe dog was, she loved it anyway or it wouldn't be there with her.I was sure she had overheard,he then promptlywent to her and said he was sorry (At which time he did ask what type of dog it was and her response with a grin was "hes a mutt,but my big baby)
Now doc I've read how you keep on people about testing and it is a great thing having a dog you have complete faith and trust in his breeding and genectics, It has been stated that you yourself are a backyard breeder(no insult implied here--you just honestly haven't bred that many times--not enough to even have toDNA testing requiredyet,although I'm sure you have already done it yourself). You are a very responsible breeder who cares about his dogs, but the way you are talking to people is not unlike my 10year old. I've been watching this site for awhile and my suggestion is to contact the mods and have all the test anddata posted ina permanent post (right below the moderaters).You cangreatly improve how many people see it,people that my not read every ad you respond to. Please be tactful in the writing though--Facts and Figures only.
#13
I'm hardly a backyard breeder either. My dog has all of the genetic tests that are available at the time of breeding. I require the same of the females. Casey has only been studded 4 times (has 28 offspring).
There are a few sites that require litter postings to also include the genetic tests on the parents -- along with the registered names (so that people can look it up to verify).
As far as it being an "Honor System" you are definitely correct.
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There are a few sites that require litter postings to also include the genetic tests on the parents -- along with the registered names (so that people can look it up to verify).
As far as it being an "Honor System" you are definitely correct.
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