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Alltlk4 01-14-2013 02:03 PM

Hog Outfitter
 
I just wanted to ask anyone if they have ever been to Moore's Hilltop Ranch in Bridgeport, TX. We have been on 2 hog hunts in Oklahoma at "Outfitters" and saw 1 hog. We have done a lot of research each time and even had references both times before and got burned. We even were just flat out lied to. We were offered a partial refund the last time but time was still wasted time we could have been elsewhere. Anyways if anyone has any experience or knowledge of this place please let me know. It would be appriciated.

Topgun 3006 01-14-2013 04:01 PM

Never heard of it, but be aware that hogs are not an easy animal to see or take even when there are a ton of them. They are about the smartest animal there is and if they've been hunted much and have gone completely nocturnal about the only way to see and hunt them is during the night with spolights at a feeder. Of all the ones I shot down in Texas I can't remember any that were out more than about 15 minutes before dark or just as it was getting light in the AM when they were heading to bedding areas for the daylight hours.

BP_Niccum 01-14-2013 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4027384)
Never heard of it, but be aware that hogs are not an easy animal to see or take even when there are a ton of them. They are about the smartest animal there is and if they've been hunted much and have gone completely nocturnal about the only way to see and hunt them is during the night with spolights at a feeder. Of all the ones I shot down in Texas I can't remember any that were out more than about 15 minutes before dark or just as it was getting light in the AM when they were heading to bedding areas for the daylight hours.

X2 I agree you cant underestimate hogs. I would ask the guys if they have lights on the feeders or if they can at least put them up a week befor you get there so the hogs are use to it. Im shure they probly already do but id double tap that.

Topgun 3006 01-14-2013 04:31 PM

One thing for sure, is to not fall for that advertisement for a free hog hunt that is always up on this website. They were shut down by the Texas AG for false advertising and evidently changed their ownership around to keep on operating. I have asked the site to get rid of them with no success, unlike another website that dropped them like a hot potato when I notified the onwer of the site.

tomsbass 01-14-2013 04:44 PM

Never been there, guys, but a place I highly recommend is Hunters Creek Ranch just outside Mt. Vernon east of Dallas. I just got back and shot 4 hogs in less than 2 days, including a couple of nice ones. I had a similar experience, hunted at 2 other ranches on different occasions and came away with 1 small hog between the 2 of them. Hunters Creek will see to it that you get at least a shot at some hogs. But like the other guys said, it's not easy. Make sure you can shoot accurately, be very conscious of wind direction, and be really, really quiet. Hogs will spook at the drop of a hat. If you want more info, send me a message and I'll be happy to answer as best I can.

The Rev 01-14-2013 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by tomsbass (Post 4027410)
Never been there, guys, but a place I highly recommend is Hunters Creek Ranch just outside Mt. Vernon east of Dallas. I just got back and shot 4 hogs in less than 2 days, including a couple of nice ones. I had a similar experience, hunted at 2 other ranches on different occasions and came away with 1 small hog between the 2 of them. Hunters Creek will see to it that you get at least a shot at some hogs. But like the other guys said, it's not easy. Make sure you can shoot accurately, be very conscious of wind direction, and be really, really quiet. Hogs will spook at the drop of a hat. If you want more info, send me a message and I'll be happy to answer as best I can.


That's the best way to find a place to hunt; Thanks for the feedback these forums are great for that!

CamoCandaceQOC 03-06-2013 05:45 PM

I hunt a lot of hogs in Texas and these are my favs to go to:

Bexar County Bow Hunts (Bow only) - lodging is top notch & has great exotic packages - going on a turkey hunt there soon too

KJO (Keith John Outdoors) - bow only - lodging is pretty good, Keith is an awesome guy, great exotic packages too

Bug Scuffle (havent been yet but have heard a lot of good stuff on some of the Texas bowhunting websites) - bow only, no mechanicals if that matters to you

Hugelland Ranch - Bow only I think...we only hunted with bow so i never asked...lodging is very rustic! - Zane is an amazing guy too

fishreaper 04-09-2013 03:26 PM

I live in Bridgeport but I'd be lying if I said I have ever heard of the place. Plenty of wild boar though, I doubt seeing them will be an issue. Their website says Springtown Texas which is probably 30-45 minutes south of Bridgeport. If you come through Bridgeport, go to the Brookshires there and buy stuff :D

TxHunter2015 05-21-2015 03:23 PM

Waste of time and money!
 
Don't bother with Moore's Hilltop Ranch, they are a rip off. My brother and I went to their Balsora Ranch property for a 12 hour turkey and unlimited hog hunt. We saw one hen that came to a feeder from the adjoining property. That was the only game that we saw, of the 600 or so acres that we had to hunt on 80% of it was wheat fields, which is not a habitat for hogs or turkey. All of the feeders were placed on the perimeters to draw wildlife from other properties, the animals that come to feed there simply cross to feed and then go back across the fence into the woods. They offer deer hunts but I can't imagine how that would work out as I'm sure most deer that aren't immediately dropped would jump the fence before dying and then you would be trespassing unless you received permission from the landowner to retrieve it.

Besides the one hen we saw some turkey tracks but there was no sign of hogs at all. There was one other hunting party there as well who were also hunting turkey and hogs, they saw less then we did, no tracks or game. They stated that they would not be returning to Moore's Hilltop Ranch for any more hunts.

The manager of the ranch that we contacted for the hunt and then met up with on the property was extremely rude and had a never ending list of rules for us to follow, the agreement I had to print out and sign must have been 15 pages long. I had to edit the font to make it smaller and I cut of a bunch of it before printing because it only applied to deer hunting....there was still 5 or more pages that I printed.

During the last three hours of our hunt I was sitting in a ladder stand hoping to see a turkey.....I heard the rumbling of a truck and then I turned to see the ranch manager driving through the field in his yellow low rider truck equipped with glass pack mufflers across from my stand, he was only about 50 yrds away. He was apparently just checking to see if we were still on the property, in doing so he also scared away any potential game that would have came to the feeder at sundown.

Was a big waste of time and money. We basically paid $175.00 a piece to sleep in a barn.

Topgun 3006 05-21-2015 04:08 PM

Another disgruntled first time poster on the site just to bring up a thread that is over two years old! :eek2:

super_hunt54 05-21-2015 04:34 PM

I guess it is a prerequisite for first timers Topper, digging up ancient posts. ;)

Topgun 3006 05-21-2015 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4198780)
I guess it is a prerequisite for first timers Topper, digging up ancient posts. ;)

It would seem so judging by the number of times it seems to be happening! ;)

Hogzilla681 05-24-2015 05:34 PM

I agree with tomsbass...HUNTERS CREEK RANCH! You will see tons of hogs...but do not go in there thinking it's a "canned hunt". These hogs are smart and see a lot of pressure. Use the wind in your favor!! Stay past sunset. You'll get your hogs!! Plus the price is right!!!

Love this place!

TDSBowHunter 06-12-2015 07:51 AM

Moore's Hilltop Ranch Review:

ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE STAY AWAY!!! I called to make a reservation for a youth turkey hunt for my son and Moore's immediately asked for my credit card, I found it odd they needed it right then and not the day I hunted, but they claimed it was to hold my spot; ok I said "But I still need to confirm with my wife to ensure we will be here that day because we have another trip around the same time." After talking with my wife right after I reserved the hunt she informed me we were not going to be back until the day after I made the hunt reservation. I called Moore's, less than an HOUR after I had reserved, and he said he had already charged my card which I NEVER AUTHORIZED and the hunt was still weeks away! He was incredibly rude at this point and annoyed and said he would have to credit back my card but it would take 60 days! On top of that I would be charged a $7.00 fee to get my money back and then he just hung up! I emailed him explaining I should not be responsible to pay anything, especially because I TOLD HIM I WOULD CHECK WITH MY WIFE AND CALL BACK, because I knew we had plans around the same time. Moore's email was so incredibly rude, he kept saying it cost a fee to credit the card back and that's my responsibility not theirs (I never authorized them to run my card!). I called my bank after 4 weeks of waiting for my refund of the $200+ dollars he charged me on top of the fee. After all said and done, my bank never saw his refund and I ended up having to file an claim and my bank had to refund my payment. I repeat STAY AWAY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!!

Topgun 3006 06-12-2015 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by TDSBowHunter (Post 4202184)
Moore's Hilltop Ranch Review:

ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE STAY AWAY!!! I called to make a reservation for a youth turkey hunt for my son and Moore's immediately asked for my credit card, I found it odd they needed it right then and not the day I hunted, but they claimed it was to hold my spot; ok I said "But I still need to confirm with my wife to ensure we will be here that day because we have another trip around the same time." After talking with my wife right after I reserved the hunt she informed me we were not going to be back until the day after I made the hunt reservation. I called Moore's, less than an HOUR after I had reserved, and he said he had already charged my card which I NEVER AUTHORIZED and the hunt was still weeks away! He was incredibly rude at this point and annoyed and said he would have to credit back my card but it would take 60 days! On top of that I would be charged a $7.00 fee to get my money back and then he just hung up! I emailed him explaining I should not be responsible to pay anything, especially because I TOLD HIM I WOULD CHECK WITH MY WIFE AND CALL BACK, because I knew we had plans around the same time. Moore's email was so incredibly rude, he kept saying it cost a fee to credit the card back and that's my responsibility not theirs (I never authorized them to run my card!). I called my bank after 4 weeks of waiting for my refund of the $200+ dollars he charged me on top of the fee. After all said and done, my bank never saw his refund and I ended up having to file an claim and my bank had to refund my payment. I repeat STAY AWAY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!!

Welcome to the site! It sounds like you may have never booked a hunt before from what you're telling us. First off, whenever you call and ask to book a hunt it is normal that they ask for at least a percentage of the cost up front in case you back out or don't show up and they lose that booking. Therefore, if you gave the guy a date to hold and then gave him your credit card number it was authorizing him to take that deposit fee from your card and that's standard procedure for him to do what he did. If you didn't want to actually book that day, you shouldn't have given him your card number to book it until AFTER you talked to your wife and knew you could make that date for your hunt! When you called back and told him you couldn't make that day and wanted to cancel it is also normal and within the rights of any company to charge for that service just like he informed you. He told you that procedure would take up to 60 days, but after just 4 weeks you say you called your bank asking for your refund and they ended up crediting your card if I'm understanding you correctly. That means your credit card company took the hit because of you being impatient and not waiting the 60 days the guy told you it would take. I have no idea how long it takes, but it sounds like the guy was trying to be upfront with you. After reading your post IMHO most, if not all of your problem, was caused by yourself and not the guy you dealt with. What did you think they were going to do when you gave them your credit card number/information? Giving them those numbers without them using the information to get their money and hold your date is meaningless! The card is for the money they will get from it to insure that they don't lose all they would get when they book a date if someone backs out. If you have never done a booking for a hunt before, and it certainly sounds like you haven't, what the guy did is standard procedure. I have no idea if they would have credited your account or for how much, but you said he told you it would take 60 days and you then took action after half that time. Good luck in the future, but to call the guy a criminal in caps IMHO is not correct when most, if not the entire problem, appears to have been your fault.

EDIT: I did a google and their website actually says you lose that deposit under certain conditions, but it sounds like the guy was trying to be considerate seeing as how you called back within a hour or two. Here is their policy right off their website and it was highlighted so as to be very visible: Deposits are non-refundable, unless hunter can be replaced at full price with MHR's consent. It is not MHR’s obligation to replace hunter if cancellation takes place. Cancellation can result in credit towards rebooking within one year of the date of cancellation if approved by MHR.

beingoutisgood 06-20-2015 03:26 AM

outfitter
 
I don't know if you ever make it to Alabama, but we did a hunt with an outfitter that was awesome. I'd recommend them to anybody:

http://www.myoutdoorsonline.com/hunt...ided-hog-hunt/

LeeClark 01-24-2017 11:48 AM

Moores Hunting Ranch is a Scam
 
Paul Moore a so called outfitter HA! More like a scam artist.
Here is why
I am the Pro Staff Director for a TV Hunting show called the The American Outdoorsman and I have been all over the Southern states and Texas hog hunting. Seen many ranches and outfitters. This guide Paul is here and runs a substandard operation and way over charges for what it is.
Moores Ranch is a very nice ranch but is set up for deer. There is a hog fence around the whole property to keep hogs out. Spent 3 days and nights here. And not a single animal. No hogs, no sign of hogs, Paul the guide filled the feeders the day we got here for hunt. Paul needs to be let's go from his services because he is making Moores Ranch look bad. I will make sure that all forms of social media are aware of this scam.
There is a barn to sleep in and it's full of trash and human poop, totally a health hazard. Feeders here some work some don't. Some have motion lights that work and some that don't. I can go on it I will mention it on the show and our YouTube channel.
YELP and the Texas Hog Hunting Association have been notified already. BBB forms are being filled out and we have gotten a Lawyer to sue to get a full refund.
The worst part of the whole thing is there were 4 veterans, two are disabled. And we hunted hard, day and night for 3 days and nights. We saw nothing but poachers

LeeClark 01-24-2017 11:52 AM

Worst Ranch
 
From the owner is the TV Show Jim Mueller

The American Outdoorsman TV Show sent its senior pro staff member and 4 other hunters to this ranch to hunt hogs. It was one of the worst, if not the worst, experience our of 28 year history on air. They went there to hunt hogs. Not only did they not see any hogs (that is hunting) but no sign of hogs around the feeders and the perimeter of the ranch was fenced to keep hogs out. BUYER BEWARE! Watch The American Outdoorsman Show for more details on this ranch and this story


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